[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Post-Paris Review
Izumi AIZU
iza at anr.org
Wed Jul 16 00:50:35 EDT 2008
In general, I agree with Vittorio's suggestion. In detail, however, there can be
some "cultural" and maybe "organizational" problems in the diverse world
of five regions/continents and many cultures where AtLarge members are based.
Some cultures are not accustomed to be exposed in financial details
on individual basis. If ICANN community wants to know how much ALAC
is spending, then aggregation should be sufficient.
But if we/they want to know who received how much exactly, then there
is a danger, or concern, that these figures might be used as a measure
to evaluate the performance of each. I am not saying this will happen
in definitive way, but I think there is a room for speculation and that
is not that much helpful for us to work together.
# I can self-declare how much fund I received so far from ICANN, but it may take
5 hours or more to do that for all of my travels to ICANN meeting to date ;-)
izumi
2008/7/16 Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>:
> Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>> Elisabeth Porteneuve ha scritto:
>>
>>> Do you know if ICANN or ALAC keep statistics on funding travels, including
>>> number of ALAC participants per meeting. How many ALAC were in Paris, and
>>> how many with travel/accomodation support (and the same in former places)?
>> In fact, it's never been possible to get public information on travel
>> funding by ICANN to any kind of ICANN-funded attendees.
> It is true that ICANN makes the information difficult to attain --
> indeed, any request for details on how much money is allocated to
> At-Large generally results in evasion and obfuscation. However, it
> should not be difficult for ALAC itself (and/or ALAC support staff) to
> provide a "roll call" of who attended, from the registration
> information. This is helpful, not only for funding reasons, but also to
> help At-Large be aware of who exactly is representing their interests at
> each meeting.
>
> (It is also interesting to match the list of registrations against
> meeting attendance...)
>
> There should be no reason to hide the basic attendance information.
> Indeed, info on those who pre-registered is already online
> (http://par.icann.org/attendees/).
>
> For costs, I would personally prefer aggregate amounts -- "ALAC sent the
> following people and it cost a total of $Y in travel expense". For much
> the same reason that ICANN does not break out staff salaries from its
> public budgets, I do not think it is helpful for the to world have
> access to dissect which individuals' flights cost the most.
>
> - Evan
>
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Kumon Center, Tama University, Tokyo
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