[At-Large] [ALAC-Internal] RES: Notice of Opening for Board Liaison Nominations Period

Fri Jun 6 06:29:15 EDT 2008

Dear Cherryl,
first of all thank you to respond with care. This seems a good and new
point. You have to know to understand that:

1. I do not speak English (I read) and write in french translated by
Google (see below). It may be that I am sometimes misunderstood.

2. members of france at large have been very shocked by the attitude of
staff and the ALAC against us. We had made a friendly approach and
effort. We have been treated as risible enemy.

3. the worst is the attitude of staff who told us they had many other
priorities than respond in french, while there had been committed and
that we do nothing of their letter in English. In its letter in
English we read clearly that they have reasoned decision against us.

4. the most fun is the note of Staff who reminds JFC that
self-nominations are prohibited when they comment on his nomination of
Sebastien Bachollet.

5. for the rest we asked last night to JFC Morfin to respond. If we
want to remain polite, we consider to have been genuinely and stupidly
attacked without reason, we will therefore conduct none of the welcome
activities planned home, choose the date of our events according to
our own constraints and budget out of consideration of the World Week
of the Internet that we 're at the root.

Sincerely yours,
LB

Chère Cherryl,
d'abord merci de répondre avec soin. Ceci me parait un bon et nouveau
point. Il faut que tu saches pour comprendre que :

1. je ne parle pas anglais (je le lis) et j'écris en français traduit
par Google. Cela peut faire que je sois parfois mal compris.

2. les membres de france at large on été très choqués par l'attitude du
Staff et de l'ALAC contre nous. Nous avions fait une démarche et un
effort amical. Nous avons été traité en ennemi.

3. le pire est l'attitude du Staff qui nous a indiqué qu'ils avaient
bien d'autres priorités que de nous répondre en français, alors qu'ils
s'y étaient engagés et que nous ne comprenons rien à sa lettre en
anglais. Dans sa lettre en anglais nous lisons clairement que c'est
lui qui a motivé la décision contre nous.

4. le plus amusant est la note du Staff qui rappelle à JFC que les
self-nominations sont interdites quand ils commentent sa nomination de
Sébastien Bachollet.

5. pour le reste nous avons demandé hier soir à JFC Morfin de vous
répondre. Si nous souhaitons rester polis, nous considérons avoir été
réellement et stupidement agressés sans raison : nous ne conduirons
donc aucune des activités d'accueil prévues, choisirons les date de
nos manifestations selon nos propres contraintes et budgets hors de
toute considération de la Semaine Mondiale de l'Internet dont nous
sommes pourtant à l'origine.

Sincèrement tien,
Louis.

2008/6/6 Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl at hovtek.com.au>:
> Please see my responses interspaced below...
>
> CLO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LB [mailto:lbleriot at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:24 AM
> To: cheryl at hovtek.com.au
> Cc: alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [ALAC-Internal] RES: Notice of Opening for Board
> Liaison Nominations Period
>
> Dear Cheryl,
> I am therefore entitled to think that the confusion created by the
> Staff (pretending that we do not exist, then giving to think that
> Jefsey is a clone of Sebastien Bachollet) will be lifted and that we
> will be able to vote after Paris.
>
> <CLO>  This is it seems to me confusing things more... So let me clarify...
> the only voting any ALS might do in Paris would relate to activities in the
> EURALO General Assembly not any ALAC activities / meetings or indeed any
> liaison elections... france at large is currently not an ALS (subject I believe
> to further discussion/investigation/review). And I know of no confusion
> between the President of ISOC France and our ALAC Co-Vice Chair Sebastien
> Bachollet and any one, including JFC Morfin.
>
> I then nominate JFC Morfin.
> <CLO> If you refer to the position of Board liaison then as stated below
> only an ALAC member (that is one of the 15 people on the current Advisory
> Committee who are either appointed by NomCom or RALO's to represent 5 global
> regions) can nominate... ALS status has no bearing on that at all.
>
> BTW; will france at large be able to participate and to submit a report
> during the Paris meeting?
>
> <CLO> At-Large and/or ALS activities can of course be submitted to the
> EURALO, inclusion or otherwise would be up to them though... If your
> organisation wishes to submit some sort of report to the ALAC's attention
> than I'm happy to receive and table it, as a record of local
> At-Large/Internet user activity.
>
> Will it be broadcasted live (we have members all over France and we
> have three related meetings the same week, you will be explained when
> you are here).
>
> <CLO> Remote participation (though not 'live broadcast' per se) is to be
> available from most if not all of our open meetings (there may be some
> limitations on site I am not aware of) and any method available will be
> linked in the details of any given Agenda... Also the ALAC / RALO meetings
> normal recordings, transcripts and minutes (that happens in any other ALAC
> meeting as well) will also occur to the wiki page related to each meeting or
> event... Your members should/could, as well, use the usual public
> participation methods provided for the general ICANN meeting...
> --
> LB
> Louis Blériot
>
> 2008/6/5 Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl at hovtek.com.au>:
>> Thank you Vanda, Beau would indeed, in my opinion make an excellent
>> candidate for this important role.
>>
>> Whilst from the Chair I will neither nominate or second candidates, I do
>> most heartily endorse the opportunity for the ALAC to consider, such
>> experienced, capable and accomplished candidates, who as this role
> requires,
>> need to work so closely with the ALAC and our ExCom (in fact I would see
> it
>> in some ways as an Ex-Officio ExCom role) in the coming year...
>>
>> I do remind the ALAC that:-
>> 1. nominations or self nominations must come from ALAC Members, (as
> outlined
>> earlier this week by Nick)
>> 2. there is no requirement to second, but
>> 3. candidates must accept nominations to the Public list...  This can
> happen
>> at any time after nomination but *must* occur within 7 days of the close
> of
>> the nomination period.
>> 4. voting by the ALAC Members will occur after the Paris meeting.
>>
>> I trust that if they are indeed able to make the commitment required of
> this
>> pivotal role over the coming ALAC and ICANN year, that both these
> candidates
>> (along naturally, with any other who is nominated between now and 1200 UTC
>> on the 16th June) will accept these nominations, and that in Paris we will
>> (under Rule 9.5) discuss all nominations (including the opportunity for
>> Candidate statements to be given and Q&A/interview) in our ALAC
> meeting(s).
>>
>>
>> CLO
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: alac-internal-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:alac-internal-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Vanda
>> Scartezini UOL
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:32 AM
>> To: 'Alan Greenberg'; 'At-Large writ small'
>> Cc: 'ALAC internal list'
>> Subject: [ALAC-Internal] RES: [At-Large] Notice of Opening for Board
> Liaison
>> Nominations Period
>>
>> To give an opportunity for some rotating philosophy I nominate Beau
>> Brendler.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Vanda Scartezini
>>
>> Polo Consultores Associados
>>
>> Alameda Santos 1470 #1407
>>
>> Tel - +55113266.6253
>>
>> Mob- +55118181.1464
>>
>> vanda at uol.com.br
>>
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>> -----Mensagem original-----
>> De: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Alan Greenberg
>> Enviada em: terça-feira, 3 de junho de 2008 04:32
>> Para: 'At-Large writ small'
>> Cc: 'ALAC internal list'
>> Assunto: Re: [At-Large] Notice of Opening for Board Liaison Nominations
>> Period
>>
>>
>>
>> I nominate Wendy Seltzer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> At 02/06/2008 08:14 AM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
>>
>>>Notice to: At-Large, ALS, RALO and ALAC Members.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>As required by Rule 9 of the Rules of Procedure of the At-Large
>>>Advisory
>>
>>>Committee, I hereby (at 1200 UTC on June 2nd 2008), open the
>>>nominations
>> for
>>
>>>the position of the At-Large Liaison to the ICANN Board of Directors.
>>>The
>>
>>>successful candidate will serve in this position from the end of the
>>>2008
>>
>>>ICANN Annual General Meeting, for a period of one (1) year.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Nominations will close at 1800 UTC fourteen (14) days from today, 16th
>>
>>>June, 2008, and must be sent to the Public ALAC list.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Nominees are required, per Rule 9.3, to accept their nomination (also
>>>to
>> the
>>
>>>Public list) not less than seven (7) days from the close of
>>>nominations, or
>>
>>>1800 UTC on 23rd June, 2008.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>I shall announce the opening and closing dates and times for the votes,
>> with
>>
>>>an "election summary and election call message to the Public List",
>>
>>>subsequent to June 23rd.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Rules relating to this position include:-
>>
>>>
>>
>>>4.4       All liaisons serve for a term of one year starting from the
>>
>>>closure of an Annual General Meeting and ending at the closure of the
>>
>>>following Annual General Meeting.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>4.5       Liaisons shall be freely chosen by the ALAC, according to the
>>
>>>following criteria:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>4.6       They shall normally be persons who are current or former members
>>
>>>of the ALAC, or are anyway familiar with the activities and functioning
>>>of
>>
>>>ICANN and of the ALAC;
>>
>>>
>>
>>>4.7       They shall accept to serve on behalf of the AT LARGE COMMUNITY
> by
>>
>>>acting for the good of the entire Committee, working to bridge
>>>differences
>>
>>>and build consensus, but also recognizing difference and enabling
>>>different
>>
>>>opinions to be shared;
>>
>>>
>>
>>>4.8       They shall accept, while acting in their capacity as ALAC
>>
>>>representative, to put the collective views of the ALAC, always, in
>>>front
>> of
>>
>>>their own.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>  The complete Qualification Criteria found in Rules 4 and 5 of the
>>> Rules
>> of
>>
>>>Procedure found at
>>
>>><https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi/ALAC%20ROP's%20Adopted%20October%2
>>>0200
>> 7
>>
>>>.doc?action=attachments_download;page_name=rules_of_procedure;id=200710
>>>2318
>> 3
>>
>>>147-0-6223>
>>
>>>https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi/ALAC%20ROP's%20Adopted%20October%20
>>>2007
>> .
>>
>>>doc?action=attachments_download;page_name=rules_of_procedure;id=2007102
>>>3183
>> 1
>>
>>>47-0-6223.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Regards,
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Cheryl Langdon-Orr
>>
>>>
>>
>>>ALAC Chair, 2007-2008
>>
>>>
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LB