[At-Large] Tracking of our messages - a privacy violation .. ?
Nick Ashton-Hart
Nick.Ashton-Hart at icann.org
Mon Apr 14 05:00:37 EDT 2008
FYI, the information being posted comes from the public list archive of this mailing list. The Chair requested that a simple listing of who posts and how many times per week be generated and very fortunately Thomas Narten, who subscribes to this list and performs the same service for the GA list, offered to help and posts the summary each week.
The discussion about this happened whilst you were away, so I've recapped it here for you and for any others who have subscribed in the last few weeks.
On 11/04/2008 16:59, "Robert Guerra" <lists at privaterra.info> wrote:
The weekly posting to the list of the list of messages sent, has me
thinking that tracking of our messages is being done. This raises a
couple of issues, that i'll comment on below.
1. What information is being tracked ?
The information listed, gives information only details messages sent
- and not what messages have been read. cookies and/or embedded
messages would have to be added to the messages to be able to better
track what is being read.
2. Has a privacy statement been developed and shared, and approved by
ALAC regarding the personal mailing list data that now seems to be
collected & used.
As has been stated several times on this list - Strong privacy
legislation and/or standards exist in many of the jurisdictions where
ALS are active.
If indeed we are strong supporters of Privacy, then we should
recognize that the new practice of "tracking our postings" - is a
change in the use of trans-border personal information, one that - in
certain jurisdictions - requires consent of the parties involved. No
prior consent, I believe was requested - so , we might have an issue.
3. Yes, the message posting list might appear innocent enough - but,
let's not forget that we need to serve as an example and practice the
very recommendations that we "preach" regarding privacy.
I look forward to hearing what others think about this, and what steps
(if any) we might want to take ..
regards
Robert
ps. some references
The OECD Working Party on Information Security and Privacy (WPISP)
http://www.oecd.org/sti/security-privacy
Canada - The Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents
Act (PIPEDA)
http://www.privcom.gc.ca/ind/index_e.asp
http://www.privcom.gc.ca/bus/index_e.asp
And since ICANN is based in California - some links to legislation
that likely apply to California based corporations...
http://www.oispp.ca.gov/consumer_privacy/business/default.asp
California has passed legislation requiring certain specific
disclosures be made available to California residents who use the
Internet and provide information that may be used for marketing
purposes. That legislation requires any business that discloses a
customer's personal information (as defined by the act) to any third
party for direct marketing purposes to provide the customer a method
for obtaining the names, addresses and certain other specified details
of anyone who might have received that personal information..
On 11-Apr-08, at 8:36 AM, Thomas Narten wrote:
> Total of 141 messages in the last 7 days.
>
> script run at: Fri Apr 11 00:53:02 EDT 2008
>
> Messages | Bytes | Who
> --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
> 12.06% | 17 | 14.20% | 196268 | jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
> 13.48% | 19 | 10.23% | 141391 | dannyyounger at yahoo.com
> 6.38% | 9 | 8.44% | 116630 | roberto at icann.org
> 6.38% | 9 | 6.22% | 85974 | lists at privaterra.info
> 6.38% | 9 | 5.33% | 73700 | jam at jacquelinemorris.com
> 5.67% | 8 | 5.17% | 71427 | wendy at seltzer.com
> 4.96% | 7 | 5.51% | 76107 | namecritic at blogs.pn
> 4.96% | 7 | 3.91% | 53976 | alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
> 3.55% | 5 | 4.11% | 56854 | jefsey at jefsey.com
> 1.42% | 2 | 5.61% | 77570 | ymshana2003 at hotmail.com
> 2.84% | 4 | 2.16% | 29892 | ross at tucows.com
> 2.13% | 3 | 2.68% | 37079 | carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com
> 2.84% | 4 | 1.90% | 26284 | evan at telly.org
> 2.13% | 3 | 2.17% | 29960 | brenbe at consumer.org
> 2.13% | 3 | 1.73% | 23865 | dthompson at gov.nu.ca
> 2.13% | 3 | 1.61% | 22269 | bfausett at internet.law.pro
> 2.13% | 3 | 1.37% | 18871 | johnl at iecc.com
> 2.13% | 3 | 1.35% | 18602 | michele at blacknight.ie
> 0.71% | 1 | 2.76% | 38149 | jsalgueiro at cantv.net
> 1.42% | 2 | 1.57% | 21746 | vanda at uol.com.br
> 1.42% | 2 | 1.33% | 18414 | derek at aa419.org
> 1.42% | 2 | 1.06% | 14695 | rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
> 1.42% | 2 | 1.06% | 14608 | hongxueipr at gmail.com
> 1.42% | 2 | 1.05% | 14508 | cheryl at hovtek.com.au
> 0.71% | 1 | 1.42% | 19661 | sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.65% | 9038 | veronicac at diplomacy.edu
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.61% | 8447 | staff at atlarge.icann.org
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.59% | 8138 | ajp at glocom.ac.jp
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.57% | 7935 | andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.57% | 7854 | frederic.teboul at icann.org
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.56% | 7750 | stacy.burnette at icann.org
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.55% | 7539 | narten at us.ibm.com
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.51% | 7009 | hawadiakite at gmail.com
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.50% | 6978 | patrick at vande-walle.eu
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.48% | 6568 | nick.ashton-hart at icann.org
> 0.71% | 1 | 0.46% | 6323 | icann-list at sorehands.com
> --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
> 100.00% | 141 |100.00% | 1382079 | Total
>
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