[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Community Input Requested on Two DraftStatements from ALAC to the ICANN Board

Blogs.pn namecritic at blogs.pn
Tue Apr 8 10:32:00 EDT 2008


Just a comparison note. It seems funny that a lot of people are against 
eliminating the AGP altogether as a method for solving domain tasting, but 
they are willing to take a drastic measure like making ALL whois private as 
a soltion to the spammers. I thought the one-step-at-a-time approach to 
things was preferred.

Chris McElroy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>
Cc: <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Community Input Requested on Two 
DraftStatements from ALAC to the ICANN Board


>I totally agree with this view. whois has legitimate uses, especially in
> business, and obviously needs to be accurate. What we do need, though,
> is a way to prevent the spammers and bad guys harvesting data from the
> whois database, without shutting it down by having it totally private
> and hidden.
>
> Jacqueline
> Derek Smythe wrote:
>> Blogs.pn wrote:
>>
>>> I just think that if this is supposed to be to the benefit of
>>> registrants, then the registrant should be the one choosing the option.
>>> This is not a case of "most people want their whois info private,
>>> therefore everyone must have their whois information private" or vice
>>> versa situation.
>>>
>>> Each registrant should be able to choose for themselves. For example, I
>>> do not want my whois information private. I like transparency. I like my
>>> potential clients to have the ability to see who owns my business or who
>>> owns the domain name I do business with. I can also see how some people
>>> would rather have it private for very legitimate reasons.
>>>
>>> I just do not believe that their reasons for wanting privacy are greater
>>> than my reason for not wanting it or vice versa. Why should their wishes
>>> override my wishes or my wishes override their wishes?
>>>
>>> I'm definitely for enforcing that the whois information is accurate
>>> whether the registrant chooses privacy or not. But that is a separate
>>> issue. Why must the privacy issue be a one side wins or the other side
>>> wins situation? Personal choice should override all other concerns in my
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> Chris McElroy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well said Chris!
>>
>> I believe there are options for registrants who would wish their whois
>> to be private, since registrars do provide such a service. I myself
>> use such a service as pointed out in my mail, also for a very
>> legitimate reason.
>>
>> Likewise there are those who abuse the current whois privacy
>> mechanisms by hiding fake whois data behind privacy services to avoid
>> responsibility for the domain usage.
>>
>> There are many legitimate businesses and normal registrants who prefer
>> their whois to be shown. In fact a protected whois record for business
>> is a red flag.
>>
>> As regards the whois accuracy issue, this was the original statement I
>> believe should stay as is:
>>
>>  >* WHOIS Accuracy and Reporting. We all know that WHOIS is very
>>  > inaccurate. This is a very serious problem and considerable effort
>>  > needs to be made to improve this situation....
>>
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
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