[At-Large] ALAC statement for Public Forum

[Hong Xue]

Sure, I can add it into our statement on IDNs and update it onto wiki,
but the ALAC report has already been submitted at
http://delhi.icann.org/files/ALAC-Report-New-Delhi.pdf.

Also, the present statement is primarily about the immediate comments
on fast track on IDN ccTLDs. Are you suggesting we add a comment on
IDN gTLDs under the auspices of the new gTLDs? Semantic similarity was
a very contentious issue at GNSO. But IDN ccTLDs are a totally
different story. There may not be possible to translate a two-letter
ccTLD code into any IDN script but there is indeed very wide support
to maintain the link between the IDN ccTLDs and ccTLD territories. So,
an IDN ccTLD will be "equivalent" to a country name in whatever form.

To make a long story short, if this is a general statement on both IDN
gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs, it may not work. I'm waiting your further advice
to proceed.

Hong




On 2/15/08, Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg at web.de> wrote:
> Hong,
>
> thank you. if you think it is enough that this issue has been raised at GNSO
> IDN WG Report making our position clear we might not need to do it in this
> public forum but should add it to our report under the section IDN.
>
> Best Greetings
> Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hong Xue" <hongxueipr at gmail.com>
> To: "Annette Muehlberg" <annette.muehlberg at web.de>
> Cc: <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC statement for Public Forum
>
>
> > Annette,
> >
> >> In the working group on IDNs we also pointed out that there is no such
> >> thing
> >> as translated / equivalent skripts to excisting TLDs - registries do not
> >> have automatic entitlement to expressions of their names to IDNs.
> >>
> >
> > This issue has been raised at GNSO IDN WG Report. It was under the
> > discussion on confusing similarity--namely, whether semantic
> > similarity (including but not limited to meaningful similarity) should
> > be excluded from IDN gTLDs. I, as the ALAC Liaison, voiced very
> > strongly on this issue. My opinion was eventually recorded into the
> > Report. So, now you can see that only visual and phonetic similarity
> > will be considered. Thus, translation of ASCII gTLD is not even
> > supported at the GNSO. Is this still a very big concern in user
> > community?
> >
> > Of course, I'm very OK to reiterate this at the Forum.
> >
> > Hong
> >
> >
> >
> > Many gtld Registries contends
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/15/08, Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg at web.de> wrote:
> >> Thank you very much for putting this together - at night. It is really
> >> great
> >> fun to attend an ICANN Meeting when they turn off the internet access
> >> right
> >> after the official meeting at 18:30. Great working conditions.
> >>
> >> In the working group on IDNs we also pointed out that there is no such
> >> thing
> >> as translated / equivalent skripts to excisting TLDs - registries do not
> >> have automatic entitlement to expressions of their names to IDNs.
> >>
> >> I think that ALAC and RALOs agree on that position and it would be good
> >> if
> >> we could point that out in the public forum as a joint statement. Any
> >> objections?
> >>
> >> It would be great if you could reply within the next hour, so we can
> >> state
> >> this in the public forum - otherwise we could add it to the report later
> >> after our meeting tonight .
> >>
> >> best
> >> Annette
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <cheryl at hovtek.com.au>
> >> To: <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:58 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC statement for Public Forum
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The aggrigated contributions from all contributers with a few extra
> >> > general introducion bits is (temporarily) up on our Wiki at
> >> > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?at_large_advisory_committee
> >> >
> >> >  Temprarilly because after it is given any final tweeks and presented
> >> > it will become a linked page from where it is now but I wanted to
> >> > minimise clicks to find for tomorrow...
> >> >
> >> > CLO
> >> >
> >> >
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