[At-Large] [ALAC-Internal] Moore v. ICANN

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Fri Dec 7 12:10:00 EST 2007


Well, the domain tasting issue was quite definitely driven by ALAC. 
The IP of Business constituency's may have taken it up if we had not, 
but we did initiate it on our own. Once issues are raised, regardless 
of who raises then, there will be deadlines.

But it is clear that until we can find a way to mobilize the 
distributed resources within RALOs and ALSs, we can only do a handful 
of things at a time, and we need to regularly make judgement calls 
regarding what we do respond to and what we pass on. To date, we pass 
on things not because of a formal decision, but simply because no one 
does it in time. If we get better at managing and increasing our 
resources available, we can better respond to external demands when 
they really matter to At Large, and drive more initiatives ourselves.

Alan

At 07/12/2007 11:34 AM, carlos aguirre wrote:
>Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
>"One of my biggest surprises since becoming involved in At-Large is the
>(seemingly) completely reactive nature of ALAC. Respond to this paper,
>meet that deadline, jump when others say to jump. ALAC appears to have
>rarely -- at least so long as I've seen -- helped to _drive_ the 
>ICANN policy agenda, to assert issues that are important to the public that
>the governments, the registries and the trademark lawyers need to address."
>
>before anything, I assume my own lack. Second, I agree with Evan's 
>words. In my short life in ALAC we have never decided for ourselves. 
>the parameters, always were fixed by others. I think is time to take 
>the control and decide in relation with the RALO's interests, and 
>fullfil our obligations completelly. stop to talk only about issues 
>that others want, I think is neccesary to put on a table our own 
>initiatives, or decide if the others issues are important for us or 
>not. We need to have an ideas engine and directly send to the Board 
>like advisory committee that we are. all of this without prejudice 
>to work in a WG or as a liason with others committees, etc. I would 
>like to hear your ideas about how we can get this.
>
>regards.
>
>
>
>
>Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
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> > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:26:56 -0500
> > From: evan at telly.org
> > To: roberto at icann.org
> > CC: alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org; dannyyounger at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moore v. ICANN
> >
> > Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> > > I insist that ALAC's role is not to act as a consumer protection agency.
> >
> > I agree. ALAC simply can't serve this purpose, given the level and
> > nature of the resources given it. By name and role it is designed to
> > provide policy input and educate the public (in large part, to assist in
> > the credible assembly of public-focused policy).
> >
> > It is, however, completely reasonable to assert that ALAC has a critical
> > role in ensuring ICANN has such a mechanism. Indeed, one can easily
> > suggest that ALAC -- as the one body within ICANN intended to represent
> > the public interest -- has a duty to press for this and perhaps even
> > architect it.
> >
> > One of my biggest surprises since becoming involved in At-Large is the
> > (seemingly) completely reactive nature of ALAC. Respond to this paper,
> > meet that deadline, jump when others say to jump. ALAC appears to have
> > rarely -- at least so long as I've seen -- helped to _drive_ the ICANN
> > policy agenda, to assert issues that are important to the public that
> > the governments, the registries and the trademark lawyers need to address.
> >
> > Is this a matter of maturity and self-awareness, that will come as ALAC
> > gets its feet and the grassroots asserts its proper place? Or is this
> > flaw inherent in the design? Alan has said on the domain tasting issue
> > that the NSOs listen to us only by courtesy; that if we ever raise an
> > issue that they don't want exposed, that issue may never see the light
> > of day.
> >
> > - Evan
> >
> >
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