[At-Large] Comments about at-large/ALAC in ICANN newsletter

Thu Nov 1 10:16:44 EDT 2007

Though I am not there, I think what we need is not an "apology", but more
constructive dialogue.

That will be among us, including between 15 members,
between 15 members and other ALAC/RALO/ALS members,
and between that and staff members involved with ALAC.

For which, even 10 minute frank exchange of views on this unfortunate
incident and ways for future working relationship may serve.

Shutting down the good opportunity is not the best way, right?

thanks,

izumi

2007/11/1, Jacqueline A. Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>:
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>  If the ALAC feels it's necessary. I don't.
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> *From:* Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart at icann.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 31, 2007 18:23
> *To:* Thompson, Darlene
> *Cc:* At-Large Global List
> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] Comments about at-large/ALAC in ICANN newsletter
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> Thanks very much for being understanding :)
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>
>
> That said, Kieren has come up to me and apologised and has asked to convey
> his apologies in person at the ALAC meeting tomorrow. I have told him that I
> will ask the Chair if she wishes to make the time for this but that I had a
> feeling a number of Members would be happy to hear such a statement.
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> On 31 Oct 2007, at 17:53, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
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>   Hey Nick,
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> Awesome e-mail.  I think that we can all file this away under the topic of
> "Shit happens" and let it go.  If it were a perfect world...
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>
> I think that everybody is just getting a little tired and strung out and
> then things are said that aren't as well worded as they could have been.
> Blah.
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> Also, I would like to take this moment to thank ICANN staff.  You guys are
> working your butts off and it hasn't gone unnoticed.  EXCELLENT job done by
> all!
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>
>
> Darlene
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>
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> *From:* alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Nick Ashton-Hart
> *Sent:* Wed 10/31/2007 3:22 PM
> *To:* Bret Fausett
> *Cc:* At-Large Global List
> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] Comments about at-large/ALAC in ICANN newsletter
>
> There is not yet an online version for me to link to or attach but
> here's the exact text in the newsletter:
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> "Growing pains appeared at the ALAC meeting when representatives of
> the regional at large organisations (RALOs) accused the committee of
> being poor value of money and operating badly. They then proceeded to
> list a number of ways in which they intended to keep the Committee
> members to account.
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> This soon gave way to some constructive dialogue however. Statements
> were produced on gTLDs and IDN questions and a resolution passed in
> favour of an IDN fast-track. Not unusually the ALAC requested more
> resources from ICANN."
>
> I want you all to know that this situation is not reflective of the
> view of ICANN as a whole. Denise and I are very aware of this and we
> are very sorry on behalf of ICANN.
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> More will be forthcoming on the subject.
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> On 31 Oct 2007, at 11:27, Bret Fausett wrote:
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> > Robert, this post is an example of something that I think is making
> > this list difficult to manage. The post vaguely suggests that
> > something inappropriate has happened, based on hearsay reports from
> > unidentified colleagues. I have no idea what you're talking about,
> > and I think I'm rather steeped in the ICANN organization. Perhaps
> > it would have been better to hold this message until you actually
> > had the language in hand, could quote it and then describe your
> > concerns. As it is, I don't know what you're talking about, even
> > after reviewing all the recent ICANN newsletters I could find in my
> > inbox. I'm not sure how this message accomplished anything other
> > than to kindle some flames. I don't mean to pick on you, or anyone,
> > I'd just like to see us use this list less as a place for instant
> > reactions and more as a forum for considered  dialogue.
> >
> >      Bret
> >
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Robert Guerra wrote:
> >
> >> Several colleagues are reporting that inappropriate and false
> >> information on and about at-large and ALAC meetings this week are
> >> being printed in the ICANN newsletter.
> >>
> >> I would like to ask :
> >>
> >> 1. that the text present in the newsletter be posted to the list, and
> >> 2. should the text and/or comments be deemed as inappropriate, then
> >> ALAC should take appropriate actions
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> Robet
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