[At-Large] <IMPORTANT> Draft Plan for Tuesday's AtLargecommunitymeeting with ICANN Board

cheryl at hovtek.com.au cheryl at hovtek.com.au
Mon Oct 29 21:10:07 EDT 2007


Yes and thank you for being my proxy for that Jaqueline;  btw as the  
document forwarded went only to the ALAC Internal list as it was a  
synthesis of a proposal for ALAC to consider and agree upon, a  
synopsis of the report piece, AND the Draft document that Danny  
prepared you should note expect to see it here) but we should note  
that Danny sent the original Final Draft document to this public  
liston the 25th of the month...

CLO


Quoting "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>:

> Went out from me to list ? Cheryl had issues with email this AM.
>
>
>
> From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:Brenbe at consumer.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 17:18
> To: Izumi AIZU; jam at jacquelinemorris.com
> Cc: At-Large Global List
> Subject: RE: [At-Large] <IMPORTANT> Draft Plan for Tuesday's
> AtLargecommunitymeeting with ICANN Board
>
>
>
> Can I ask a rather annoying question...has Danny distributed the document
> from the GNSO-liaison mailing list? I haven't seen it. I would guess there
> would be a lot in there that not all the ALAC will agree with, but I think
> we have addressed that possible scenario by saying it's OK for the ALAC to
> say to the board (and/or to the public) that we don't have a consensus on a
> particular issue, but here are the key concerns.
>
>
>
>    _____
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> From: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Izumi AIZU
> Sent: Mon 10/29/2007 8:12 PM
> To: jam at jacquelinemorris.com
> Cc: At-Large Global List
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] <IMPORTANT> Draft Plan for Tuesday's
> AtLargecommunitymeeting with ICANN Board
>
> One background information, which I think may be usefule is, that
> there was a suggestion yesterday for the meeting with the Borad members
> to try to provide "advice" on policy issues since ALAC is essentialy
> an "advisory" role to the Board so the sentiment there was, in my
> interpretation, let us do the job - which does not mean that we don't have
> any in-depth dialogue, but rather, that could be a part of the dialogue.
>
> The difficulty we faced this morning was, it is not easy to come to a
> consensus within a short morning meeting on which policy items
> are more important than the others - so we kind of agreed to throw
> all items seemingly important that time to the list and listen to the
> members opinion, in the afternoon online, as well as in the evening
> if time allows. SO this is not by any means imposing the agenda
> or even ignoring the previous agenda suggestions, but a a work
> in progress. If my initial message to the list gave a wrong impression,
> sorry, but that was not the intention at all. AND, as I see it now,
> I think we are doing exactly the kind of thing we anticipated earlier
> in the morning. The only objective is to have a prodcutive meeting
> with the board. We can think and discuss how best to achieve that
> with all members ALAC with ALS and RALO.
>
> thanks,
>
> izumi
>
> 2007/10/30, Jacqueline A. Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mohammed
>>
>> I got an email this morning that sent a proposed agenda, and asked for
>> comments and edits, so obviously I didn't think that this was an agenda
>> fixed in stone. I previously had sent a detailed draft agenda (last week)
>> and some items were included and some left out. Some of what I sent last
>> week I have not suggested be re-integrated.
>>
>> I am not the only one who thinks that a more in-depth discussion with
> fewer
>> topics is more useful. There is obviously a difference in what the meeting
>> is seen as.
>>
>>
>>
>> Generally, the meetings with Board members are there for an in-depth  2
> way
>> dialog on issues that are 1) before the Board and we want to make our
> point
>> before they meet, or 2) that are issues important to at large that have
> been
>> ignored by the ICANN processes and we want to raise them with the Board as
>> at a higher level,  3) strategic issues relating to the At Large and its
>> position within ICANN.  4) to gauge the Board's reaction to certain
> issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> The forum for updating the Board on what we're up to has traditionally
> been
>> the Public Forum statement.
>>
>>
>>
>> If we want to change the format, that's fine, but it isn't currently
>> unanimous, as you can see from the discussions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, some of the issues that were proposed by the sub-committee have been
>> dealt with, as 1) ALAC review ? ICANN put out a statement recently on
> this,
>> stating where we are in the process, what the Board has decided etc. 2)
>> Domain tasting ? is in a process that we asked for, and we have had recent
>> updates on this.  Those for sure would be a waste of time (IMO) to have
>> Board members repeat the material that was recently published.
>>
>> 3) gTLD and GNSO ? we have been asked for and have been developing written
>> responses, so why discuss BEFORE we have sent those? We can say ? yes, we
>> are nearly ready to send the statement, and look out for it? but that's
> what
>> we should raise in the forum and workshop?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jacqueline
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mohamed EL Bashir [HYPERLINK
> "mailto:admin at isoc.sd"mailto:admin at isoc.sd]
>>  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 18:03
>>  To: jam at jacquelinemorris.com
>>  Cc: 'Bret Fausett'; 'At-Large Global List'
>>
>>  Subject: Re: [At-Large] <IMPORTANT> Draft Plan for Tuesday's AtLarge
>> communitymeeting with ICANN Board
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Jaq.
>>
>>  a group which is delegated by ALAC yesterday meeting which it had a
> meeting
>> today to prepare for ALAC & ICANN Board meeting tomorrow, and they
> presented
>> us with a proposal today "an early meeting".
>>
>>  i see some major changes on the proposal "speakers" and items, for me i
>> guess the earlier proposal is OK, regarding the time issue we can reduce
> the
>> time to 5 mins for issues and proprietaries the  issues  .
>>
>>  am sure at 7pm meeting we can agree on the issues and our prioritize our
>> issues .
>>
>>  Regards,
>>  Mohamed
>>
>>  Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: OK
>> Here's my take on the agenda now:
>> Introductions ? Jacqueline 5 mins
>>  - Acknowledgement and introduction for outgoing and incoming ALAC members
>>  - New members introduction
>> ALAC in Transition- Veronica ? Report on ? One day  Workshop - 5 mins
>> Discussion with Board on the future of ALAC and At Large - 30 mins
>> Policy issues -
>> - gNSO improvement and gTLDs ? Alan (5 min + discussion 5 min - total 10
>> min)
>> - IDNs - Hong, Bilal - 10 min (include IGF, work with GAC and ccNSO)
>> - IPV4 and IPV6 ? Izumi, Didier - 10 min
>> - Registrar Accreditation Agreements (RAAs), Registry Escrow  -Beau, danny
> -
>> 10 min
>> - Bylaws change (brief mention and any questions from Board before they
> get
>> to it in their meeting) - Jacqueline ; Cheryl - 5 mins max
>> - Budget- Cheryl and Annette - 15 mins total
>>
>> This takes us to about  100 min, leaving 20 min for flexibility - e.g.
> late
>> arrival of Board members(happens a lot as they have to do many meetings)
> as
>> well as some flexibility to increase discussion time on issues that may
> turn
>> out to need more time.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bret Fausett [HYPERLINK
> "mailto:bfausett at internet.law.pro"mailto:bfausett at internet.law.pro]
>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 14:19
>> To: At-Large Global List
>> Subject: Re: [At-Large] <IMPORTANT> Draft Plan for Tuesday's AtLarge
>> communitymeeting with ICANN Board
>>
>> I agree with this as well. A significant portion of the meeting should be
>> open for a more flexible discussion of the status and future of the ALAC.
>>
>>       Bret
>>
>>
>>
>> agree with Siavash
>> that we should include a visioning issue as well.
>>
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