[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Results of the Voting for ALAC NominatingCommittee 2008 Appointments
Mohammed EL Bashir
admin at isoc.sd
Fri Sep 28 09:16:21 EDT 2007
Hi,
This is damaging the image of ALAC community as a whole .
as an ALAC member i did vote based on the list posted into the ALAC wiki
and according to it the voting proceeded, my understanding was that the
regional secretary or Ralo representatives confirmed the data on their
Ralos ALAC nominations list as the list was complete and online since
18th sep and there was a good space to time to review and update, based
on that i voted accordingly .
after checking ALAC wiki i can see that Ros Radar name was added after
17th sep, his name is not available on NA Nomcom list on NA wiki, and
i can't assume that his name was added to the list based on a NA
consensus or not.
I would like to suggest that NA ALAC representatives and staff should
consult with NA and find out what happened and how it happened ASAP as
we are reaching our Nomcom deadline, if Danny & Darlene comments is
correct ALAC should solve this issue .
i don't think its the Staff mistake, as Nick mentioned they provide us
with the tools to operate but when something like this happens they
should be assisting in identifying the problem so we can avoid it in the
future .
Regards,
Mo.EL Bashir
ALAC member
Siavash Shahshahani wrote:
> I, too, as a person who voted on NomComm appointments, am disturbed by
> what I'm hearing. I missed the last telephone conference so I assumed that
> the process for drawing up the final list of candidates had been clearly
> agreed upon and duly executed. It seems to me that the wiki, with its
> editing possibilities, is not the proper tool for carrying out a formal
> process such as finalizing an election list. The final authoritative list,
> whether it conformed to RALO wishes or not, must have been properly
> announced by the Chair(or the proper responsible substitute) before voting
> took place.
> Siavash
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Following is my "personal" comments as an ALAC member who voted on this.
>>
>> I think that Danny's and Darlene's question about the process is
>> valid and requires good explanation. I thought the candidates
>> on the voting website were the valid ones - I should have
>> examined more carefully in the end. If I may, I was on the road
>> and just voted on the fly, but was convinved the candidates were
>> all qualified persons. I did not have time to check the NARALO
>> wiki, and I did not think it was necesarry for me to do so.
>> This is not saying that I am not responsible for the result, though.
>>
>> I was charing the ALAC meeting on Sep 11, and handed over
>> my responsibility to the Chair/Vice Chair after that. But I still
>> feel responsible to implement what we agreed.
>>
>> Now, I urge the persons in charge who setup the voting
>> to come up with a reasonable explanation, and if failing so, I think
>> we should hold the final decision to NomCom.
>>
>> I personally have little problem having registrar or other consitiuency
>> person to be nomiated to NomCom from ALAC, if he or she meets
>> the criteria we set and selected through a legitimate way.
>>
>> But, until a good explanation is made, our accoutability is at stake
>> and therefore we should not conclude this.
>>
>> izumi (still on the road in Europe with limited connection time)
>>
>> 2007/9/28, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson at gov.nu.ca>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have just researched Danny's comments below and can confirm what he is
>>> saying. I have just listened to the transcript of our telephone
>>> conference of Sept. 10 and there was no mention of Ross Rader, just
>>> Evan, Eric (is it Eric or Hugh?) and Michael (as per Danny's list).
>>> There has been absolutely no on-list activity mentioning Ross
>>> whatsoever.
>>>
>>> I, personally, have no problem with having Ross in this position. On
>>> the other hand I, too, have serious reservations about the opacity of
>>> the process. We had three names put forward, two of which were
>>> confirmed. I would definitely like to know how this happened with
>>> complete disregard for input from the NARALO. If processes are put in
>>> place, they should be followed or else what is the point of us putting
>>> our time and effort into this at all?
>>>
>>> Darlene
>>>
>>> Darlene A. Thompson
>>> Community Access Program Administrator
>>> Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
>>> c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
>>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
>>> Phone: (867) 975-6531
>>> Fax: (867) 979-8870
>>> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny
>>> Younger
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:24 PM
>>> To: NA Discuss; At-Large Worldwide
>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Results of the Voting for ALAC
>>> NominatingCommittee 2008 Appointments
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> The North American community is entitled to an
>>> explanation of the voting results for our region that
>>> saw a supplier-side registrar representative elected
>>> whose name was never once introduced for candidacy on
>>> the NARALO discussion list.
>>>
>>> The minutes of the last ALAC meeting state:
>>> "It was decided that the RALOs would provide their
>>> advice and recommendations by the end of this week
>>> (NLT 16st September). There would then be a vote
>>> online using instant runoff for the candidates of each
>>> region wherever there is more than one candidate
>>> proposed from a region."
>>>
>>> The North American region advanced three names: Eric
>>> Dierker (confirmed), Michael Geist (at last report was
>>> "pending confirmation", and Evan Leibovitch
>>> (confirmed).
>>>
>>> The current NARALO Wiki contains only two names:
>>>
>>> Hugh Dierker [USA]
>>> current chair of the GNSO's General Assembly
>>> Proposed by Danny Younger
>>> Confirmed
>>>
>>> Evan Leibovich [Canada]
>>> ALS Representative, CLUE (Canada)
>>> Proposed by Beau & Robert
>>> Confirmed
>>>
>>> https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?na_nominating_committee_candidates
>>> _2007
>>>
>>> You will note that Ross Rader's name is not mentioned
>>> therein, yet suddenly he has been elected without
>>> member ALSs and North American individual participants
>>> in the RALO even being aware of his candidacy.
>>>
>>> Further, voting results show that Eric Dierker's name
>>> was never even voted upon, notwithstanding the fact
>>> that his bio/credentials were submitted for review.
>>>
>>> I find:
>>> (1) the opaqueness of this process outrageously
>>> disturbing,
>>> (2) the voting process that saw candidates having
>>> their names not included as perverse in the extreme,
>>> (3) the result (the election of registry and registrar
>>> representatives instead of user representatives) as a
>>> vile and deplorable abuse of trust
>>>
>>> I, and likely the Ombudsman as well, await an
>>> explanation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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