[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Results of the Voting for ALAC NominatingCommittee 2008 Appointments

[Danny Younger]

Siavash,

I appreciate your comments about the wiki (with its
editing possibilities) being an improper tool.  When
the ALAC Nominations page was first put up it was
showing four possible North American Regional
candidates: Hugh Dierker, Evan Leibovich, Michael
Geist and Wendy Seltzer, and that indeed matched the
correspondence on the NARALO discussion list.  

It appears that the ALAC nominations page text was
edited by Robert Guerra on September 18, resulting in
a duly nominated and confirmed candidate (the only
candidate from the United States) being removed from
the roster.

While I am sure that an explanation will be
forthcoming, I would recommend to the ALAC and its
respective Secretariats to take heed of the suggestion
put forth by Elisabeth Porteneuve who in her capacity
as Secretariat for the DNSO has successfully managed
numerous election processes.

regards,
Danny


--- Siavash Shahshahani <shahshah at irnic.ir> wrote:

> I, too, as a person who voted on NomComm
> appointments, am disturbed by
> what I'm hearing. I missed the last telephone
> conference so I assumed that
> the process for drawing up the final list of
> candidates had been clearly
> agreed upon and duly executed. It seems to me that
> the wiki, with its
> editing possibilities, is not the proper tool for
> carrying out a formal
> process such as finalizing an election list. The
> final authoritative list,
> whether it conformed to RALO wishes or not, must
> have been properly
> announced by the Chair(or the proper responsible
> substitute) before voting
> took place.
> Siavash
> 
> > Hi,
> > Following is my "personal" comments as an ALAC
> member who voted on this.
> >
> > I think that Danny's and Darlene's question about
> the process is
> > valid and requires good explanation. I thought the
> candidates
> > on the voting website were the valid ones - I
> should have
> > examined more carefully in the end. If I may, I
> was on the road
> > and just voted on the fly, but was convinved the
> candidates were
> > all qualified persons. I did not have time to
> check the NARALO
> > wiki, and I did not think it was necesarry for me
> to do so.
> > This is not saying that I am not responsible for
> the result, though.
> >
> > I was charing the ALAC meeting on Sep 11, and
> handed over
> > my responsibility to the Chair/Vice Chair after
> that. But I still
> > feel responsible to implement what we agreed.
> >
> > Now,  I urge the persons in charge who setup the
> voting
> > to come up with a reasonable explanation, and if
> failing so, I think
> > we should hold the final decision to NomCom.
> >
> > I personally have little problem having registrar
> or other consitiuency
> > person to be nomiated to NomCom from ALAC, if he
> or she meets
> > the criteria we set and selected through a
> legitimate way.
> >
> > But, until a good explanation is made, our
> accoutability is at stake
> > and therefore we should not conclude this.
> >
> > izumi (still on the road in Europe with limited
> connection time)
> >
> > 2007/9/28, Thompson, Darlene
> <DThompson at gov.nu.ca>:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have just researched Danny's comments below and
> can confirm what he is
> >> saying.  I have just listened to the transcript
> of our telephone
> >> conference of Sept. 10 and there was no mention
> of Ross Rader, just
> >> Evan, Eric (is it Eric or Hugh?) and Michael (as
> per Danny's list).
> >> There has been absolutely no on-list activity
> mentioning Ross
> >> whatsoever.
> >>
> >> I, personally, have no problem with having Ross
> in this position.  On
> >> the other hand I, too, have serious reservations
> about the opacity of
> >> the process.  We had three names put forward, two
> of which were
> >> confirmed.  I would definitely like to know how
> this happened with
> >> complete disregard for input from the NARALO.  If
> processes are put in
> >> place, they should be followed or else what is
> the point of us putting
> >> our time and effort into this at all?
> >>
> >> Darlene
> >>
> >> Darlene A. Thompson
> >> Community Access Program Administrator
> >> Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
> >> c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
> >> Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
> >> Phone:  (867) 975-6531
> >> Fax:  (867) 979-8870
> >> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>
> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org]
> On Behalf Of Danny
> >> Younger
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:24 PM
> >> To: NA Discuss; At-Large Worldwide
> >> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Results of the Voting
> for ALAC
> >> NominatingCommittee 2008 Appointments
> >>
> >> Dear Members,
> >>
> >> The North American community is entitled to an
> >> explanation of the voting results for our region
> that
> >> saw a supplier-side registrar representative
> elected
> >> whose name was never once introduced for
> candidacy on
> >> the NARALO discussion list.
> >>
> >> The minutes of the last ALAC meeting state:
> >> "It was decided that the RALOs would provide
> their
> >> advice and recommendations by the end of this
> week
> >> (NLT 16st September). There would then be a vote
> >> online using instant runoff for the candidates of
> each
> >> region wherever there is more than one candidate
> >> proposed from a region."
> >>
> >> The North American region advanced three names: 
> Eric
> >> Dierker (confirmed), Michael Geist (at last
> report was
> >> "pending confirmation", and Evan Leibovitch
> >> (confirmed).
> >>
> >> The current NARALO Wiki contains only two names:
> >>
> >> Hugh Dierker [USA]
> >> current chair of the GNSO's General Assembly
> >> Proposed by Danny Younger
> >> Confirmed
> >>
> >> Evan Leibovich [Canada]
> >> ALS Representative, CLUE (Canada)
> >> Proposed by Beau & Robert
> >> Confirmed
> >>
> >>
>
https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?na_nominating_committee_candidates
> >> _2007
> >>
> >> You will note that Ross Rader's name is not
> mentioned
> >> therein, yet suddenly he has been elected without
> >> member ALSs and North American individual
> participants
> >> in the RALO even being aware of his candidacy.
> >>
> >> Further, voting results show that Eric Dierker's
> name
> >> was never even voted upon, notwithstanding the
> fact
> >> that his bio/credentials were submitted for
> review.
> >>
> >> I find:
> >> (1) the opaqueness of this process outrageously
> >> disturbing,
> >> (2) the voting process that saw candidates having
> >> their names not included as perverse in the
> extreme,
> >> (3) the result (the election of registry and
> registrar
> >> representatives instead of user representatives)
> as a
> >> vile and deplorable abuse of trust
> >>
> >> I, and likely the Ombudsman as well, await an
> >> explanation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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