[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] ALS Proposed structures appllication (ALAC)

[Alan Greenberg]

At 01/07/2007 07:03 PM, Robert Guerra wrote:
>Only last week did I learn that the documents were being discussed
>paragraph by paragraph. A more proactive consultation at a regional
>level,  perhaps.. might have taken allow us to come to San Juan with
>less language left to negotiate, and a real understanding of the need
>to have the document concluded before the end of the meeting.

Robert, although you and Beau are new to the group, the rest of the 
ALAC knew (or should have known) that this was way overdue and HAD to 
be done by the time we left San Juan. The only comments that were 
made prior to the meeting were mine, and they were sent to the 
world-wide at large list. Those notes pointed to the original 
documents along with my own thoughts and specifically solicited 
comments - there were VERY few.

>A document was completed, however, as you state it could have been
>done better. For instance,  a preamble that states the focus - the
>mission - of at-large would have been nice. Perhaps that is an idea
>for the LA meeting...
>
>If there's interest, then a working group could be created to revise
>existing related documents as well the existing by laws and see if we
>can can up with better language. If enough people are interested and
>they can work online in advance of the meeting, then - we'd have
>something to present  to the board for their OK at the general meeting.

A couple of comments. The documents being discussed were specifically 
aimed at the ALAC, RALOs and regional ICANN staff to help guide their 
processes. Although they are certainly not private and could use 
additional wordsmithing, they are not designed to be general 
documents introducing AT Large to new folks. There should be more 
introductory documents, perhaps with more examples and words that are 
more outwardly focused, but Nick says that these are under 
development (or soon will be).

For the record, I support starting to spend our time discussing 
substantive issues and not just procedures and rules.

Alan




>regards
>
>Robert
>
>
>On 29-Jun-07, at 5:41 AM, RJGlass | America at Large wrote:
>
> > With regard to the current ALAC meeting, and the Proposed Guide to
> > At-Large Structures Application evaluation, I have some concerns.
> >
> > 1) This document lacks any real substance or clarity in the area of
> > what is desired of future ALSs.
> > 2) There is no substantial improvement over the previous version.
> > 3) There has not been substantial deliberation over the issues,
> > rather issues are glossed over and accepted or changed as
> > insignificantly as they have been proposed.
> > 4) Too much time has been spent on procedural issues that could
> > have been better focused on substance.
> >
> > I am not trying to stand in the way of progress, rather I am
> > convinced that not much progress has been made in the way of making
> > a reformed application process of new ALSs.  In preparing for
> > future issues such as this, I would suggest more time and energy be
> > used for making a quality document and clear up issues related to
> > these documents.  Unfortunately there has been so much going on
> > that some things fall through the cracks.  I'm afraid that this
> > document is one which has been neglected.
> >
> > -Randy Glass
> > A at L
> >
>
>
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