[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Gross Deletes

RJGlass | America@Large jipshida at gmail.com
Thu Jun 14 18:14:13 EDT 2007


How are users affected?

The user is the endpoint of this process.  However, I don't think the users
know they are affected.  I feel they are affected in a couple ways, 1- the
domain requested is more likely to resolve if it is parked at a ppc
provider.  2- they may be misled by typos and the like (phishing), but not
necessarily unique to this matter.  3- unreliability of the dns, one day
it's here, next day it's not.

If they are affected, is this an issue that we should let each registry
address by itself (e.g. .ORG recently changed its policy so that this
5-day free period no longer exists) or should ICANN mandate a particular
one-size, fits-all solution?

To be more consistant, I think ICANN should introduce a one-size fits all
for the different categories of TLD, meaining ccTLDs should have a set of
rules and gTLDs should have a similar but unrelated set.

-Randy Glass
A at L


On 6/11/07, Bret Fausett <bfausett at internet.law.pro> wrote:
>
> Although I've raised this issue within the ALAC, while I served as the
> ALAC liaison to the GNSO, let me raise it here as well since we have
> many new participants in this ongoing discussion.
>
> As background, a number of registrants and registrars are using (or
> abusing, depending on your point of view) a registry rule that allows a
> registrar to register a domain name for five days without paying for it.
> The original purpose of the rule was as a protection for registrars
> against having to pay for erroneous new registration requests. Back in
> approximately 1999, at the registrars' request, the COM-NET-ORG registry
> decided that it would not bill a registrar for a name until five days
> had passed since the registration; in other words, registrars would have
> a five day "grace period" to correct their errors without getting a
> bill. If a name was added in error, a registrar could delete the name
> within five days with no charge. This was a nice practice.
>
> As pay-per-click ("PPC") revenue from domain name traffic increased over
> the years, however, the registration of massive numbers of domain names,
> all supported by PPC, became a viable business model. Any name that
> could generate more revenue from advertising than it cost in
> registration fees (ad revenue > $6.00) could generate a profit for the
> domain name registrant. Many of the businesses involved in PPC
> advertising began using the 5-day grace period to "try" a domain name
> before buying it. If during the five day grace period they noticed that
> a domain name had a lot of type-in traffic, generating PPC revenue, they
> would keep the registration. If it didn't, they would delete the name
> within the five day period, without charge. Some people have
> characterized this try-it-before-you-buy-it practice as "domain tasting"
> or "domain kiting."
>
> As John pointed out, the massive numbers of registrations and deletes
> are primarily driven by a handful of registrars who are trading in
> domain names for their own account. Many of the names are recycled, from
> one "taster" to another. After all, if I hold a name for four days and
> see that it does not generate traffic, that information is only mine.
> There is no transparency around my traffic data. So I delete the name,
> and now John tries it. He reaches the same conclusion, and now Adam
> decides to take a peak. You get the idea....
>
> So the question I've raised with the ALAC is whether and why this is an
> At Large issue? I can understand how the registries would view this as
> an issue; after all, they have to bear the infrastructure burden of
> millions of transactions without compensation. How are users affected?
> If they are affected, is this an issue that we should let each registry
> address by itself (e.g. .ORG recently changed its policy so that this
> 5-day free period no longer exists) or should ICANN mandate a particular
> one-size, fits-all solution?
>
> Food for thought....
>
>          Bret
>
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