[At-Large] [Fwd: Re: Report to monthly telcon from ccNSO]

Thu May 10 05:44:25 EDT 2007

Dear Hong:

Lets see how many people volunteer to join in the work on IDNs. We've
created the email list and we're configuring it now, with you as a
moderator. I'll shortly ask for volunteers for IDNs (probably later
today).

On 08/05/07, Siavash Shahshahani <shahshah at irnic.ir> wrote:
>
> > I've updated the two action items onto wiki (
> > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?8_may_2007). I do hope we can get both
> > of them done by San Juan.
> >
> > Nick, could you send out the emails to RALO lists to recruit members for
> > the
> > working group? Any ALS that is interested in IDNs may send a member to the
> > WG. With respect to observers, there shouldn't be any limitation but
> > participants may wish to identify themselves. Nick, we would need a new
> > list
> > for this WG.
> >
> > For the continuity of the WG, I recommend that Siavash be the lead of the
> > WG. I may assist him as long as my liaisonship has not expired.
> >
> Hi Hong,
> Regarding the last item, I am already a liaison for something else and I
> sincerely think that as the IDN liaison you are best suited to organize
> the WG. Note also that the most active geographic area in IDNs is the
> Pacific where you have better access.
> Siavash
>
> > Hong
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Hong Xue <hongxueipr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> To have an ALAC WG is a good idea. Meanwhile, we may wish to accelerate
> >> the drafting of the users' guide on IDNs. I asked PAC for more materials
> >> for
> >> drafting but haven't got a reply. I assume Nick wrote to Tina as well.
> >> Any
> >> response?
> >>
> >> With respect to that "letter" mentioned by Siavash, I'd be interested in
> >> knowing whether it is written by ccNSO. I'm not in the ccNSO-GAC working
> >> groups for they are not as open as the GNSO one. I had tried to join as
> >> an
> >> observer but did not get any affirmative response. I disagree that ALAC
> >> fails to make substanstive contribution to IDNs. In GNSO IDN WG, our
> >> contribution (through my liaisonship) to the policy building-up is quite
> >> crucial. But, of course, the final outputs were in the name of GNSO WG,
> >> not
> >> ALAC. This may remind us we do need have our own policy advocacy vehicle
> >> through RALOs asap.
> >>
> >> Hong
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/8/07, Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You may remember the discussion in Lisbon, where I suggested that the
> >> > ALAC could call for volunteers from the regions to act as
> >> > backup/colleagues for each of the liaisons, but also to establish
> >> > additional capacity to deal with follow-up to other issues, working
> >> > groups in GNSO processes, etc.
> >> >
> >> > If we can get together a list of the issues that need to be followed,
> >> > I can craft an email to the various at-large regions, and coordinate
> >> > lists of volunteers, creating email lists for these groups of people,
> >> > and facilitating information flowing to them to/from other policy
> >> > areas? Would that be helpful?
> >> >
> >> > We're of course happy to provide the service and support to ensure
> >> > communication between groups of people following processes and
> >> > updating wikis etc to give these working groups of At-Large 'homes'
> >> > online...
> >> >
> >> > On 08/05/07, Jacqueline A. Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
> >> > > Siavash
> >> > > Good point - we haven't had ALAC working groups per se on any issues
> >> > in the
> >> > > past. Now that we have gotten (mostly) over the hump of creating the
> >> > RALOs,
> >> > > setting up a process to create WGs on issues might be a good idea.
> >> We
> >> > have
> >> > > started some initiatives on the IDN issue, such as the User Guide,
> >> > which we
> >> > > need to follow up with Staff.
> >> > > Jacqueline
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Siavash Shahshahani [mailto:shahshah at irnic.ir]
> >> > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:57 AM
> >> > > To: alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> > > Subject: [At-Large] Report to monthly telcon from ccNSO
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi All,
> >> > > On the eve of monthly telecon here's my brief report from the
> >> > goings-on of
> >> > > ccNSO mailing list:
> >> > >
> >> > > The most prominent item of relevance to at-large community has been
> >> > IDNs.
> >> > > In fact it seems that among all ICANN constituencies ALAC is the
> >> least
> >> > > involved pro-actively in the subject. I know that Hong is actively
> >> > > participating in the IDN Working Group(albeit without voting
> >> power)and
> >> > is
> >> > > a member of the President's IDN Committee, but perhaps some kind of
> >> an
> >> > > ALAC Working Group can be set up under her leadership to lend weight
> >> > to
> >> > > individual user interests in this matter. This is specially
> >> important
> >> > > because with most of the RALOs having been formed, ALAC can be
> >> > expected to
> >> > > speak for a large international cross-section. As you might know
> >> > there's a
> >> > > joint GAC-ccNSO Working Group on IDNs which is supposed to finish
> >> its
> >> > > initial deliberations in Puerto Rico and report specific
> >> > recommendations
> >> > > to ICANN Board. Further, there was a move in ccNSO to write to ICANN
> >> > Board
> >> > > expressing concern that GNSO recommendations on IDN might be adopted
> >> > > without sufficient input from the rest of the community. In the
> >> > initial
> >> > > draft of the letter, ICANN constituencies were identified as GAC,
> >> GNSO
> >> > and
> >> > > ccNSO, with no mention of ALAC. On my intervention, ALAC was also
> >> > > included, but somebody pointed out that ALAC is not doing any work
> >> on
> >> > this
> >> > > matter(or has no working group on this)- just to let everybody
> >> > know(!).
> >> > > This letter will be going to ICANN Chair soon and I wouldn't be
> >> > surprised
> >> > > if we were asked to provide a substantive and detailed input.
> >> > >
> >> > > Siavash
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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