[At-Large] [Fwd: Re: Report to monthly telcon from ccNSO]

Tue May 8 12:40:50 EDT 2007

> I've updated the two action items onto wiki (
> https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?8_may_2007). I do hope we can get both
> of them done by San Juan.
>
> Nick, could you send out the emails to RALO lists to recruit members for
> the
> working group? Any ALS that is interested in IDNs may send a member to the
> WG. With respect to observers, there shouldn't be any limitation but
> participants may wish to identify themselves. Nick, we would need a new
> list
> for this WG.
>
> For the continuity of the WG, I recommend that Siavash be the lead of the
> WG. I may assist him as long as my liaisonship has not expired.
>
Hi Hong,
Regarding the last item, I am already a liaison for something else and I
sincerely think that as the IDN liaison you are best suited to organize
the WG. Note also that the most active geographic area in IDNs is the
Pacific where you have better access.
Siavash

> Hong
>
> On 5/8/07, Hong Xue <hongxueipr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> To have an ALAC WG is a good idea. Meanwhile, we may wish to accelerate
>> the drafting of the users' guide on IDNs. I asked PAC for more materials
>> for
>> drafting but haven't got a reply. I assume Nick wrote to Tina as well.
>> Any
>> response?
>>
>> With respect to that "letter" mentioned by Siavash, I'd be interested in
>> knowing whether it is written by ccNSO. I'm not in the ccNSO-GAC working
>> groups for they are not as open as the GNSO one. I had tried to join as
>> an
>> observer but did not get any affirmative response. I disagree that ALAC
>> fails to make substanstive contribution to IDNs. In GNSO IDN WG, our
>> contribution (through my liaisonship) to the policy building-up is quite
>> crucial. But, of course, the final outputs were in the name of GNSO WG,
>> not
>> ALAC. This may remind us we do need have our own policy advocacy vehicle
>> through RALOs asap.
>>
>> Hong
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/07, Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > You may remember the discussion in Lisbon, where I suggested that the
>> > ALAC could call for volunteers from the regions to act as
>> > backup/colleagues for each of the liaisons, but also to establish
>> > additional capacity to deal with follow-up to other issues, working
>> > groups in GNSO processes, etc.
>> >
>> > If we can get together a list of the issues that need to be followed,
>> > I can craft an email to the various at-large regions, and coordinate
>> > lists of volunteers, creating email lists for these groups of people,
>> > and facilitating information flowing to them to/from other policy
>> > areas? Would that be helpful?
>> >
>> > We're of course happy to provide the service and support to ensure
>> > communication between groups of people following processes and
>> > updating wikis etc to give these working groups of At-Large 'homes'
>> > online...
>> >
>> > On 08/05/07, Jacqueline A. Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
>> > > Siavash
>> > > Good point - we haven't had ALAC working groups per se on any issues
>> > in the
>> > > past. Now that we have gotten (mostly) over the hump of creating the
>> > RALOs,
>> > > setting up a process to create WGs on issues might be a good idea.
>> We
>> > have
>> > > started some initiatives on the IDN issue, such as the User Guide,
>> > which we
>> > > need to follow up with Staff.
>> > > Jacqueline
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Siavash Shahshahani [mailto:shahshah at irnic.ir]
>> > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:57 AM
>> > > To: alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> > > Subject: [At-Large] Report to monthly telcon from ccNSO
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi All,
>> > > On the eve of monthly telecon here's my brief report from the
>> > goings-on of
>> > > ccNSO mailing list:
>> > >
>> > > The most prominent item of relevance to at-large community has been
>> > IDNs.
>> > > In fact it seems that among all ICANN constituencies ALAC is the
>> least
>> > > involved pro-actively in the subject. I know that Hong is actively
>> > > participating in the IDN Working Group(albeit without voting
>> power)and
>> > is
>> > > a member of the President's IDN Committee, but perhaps some kind of
>> an
>> > > ALAC Working Group can be set up under her leadership to lend weight
>> > to
>> > > individual user interests in this matter. This is specially
>> important
>> > > because with most of the RALOs having been formed, ALAC can be
>> > expected to
>> > > speak for a large international cross-section. As you might know
>> > there's a
>> > > joint GAC-ccNSO Working Group on IDNs which is supposed to finish
>> its
>> > > initial deliberations in Puerto Rico and report specific
>> > recommendations
>> > > to ICANN Board. Further, there was a move in ccNSO to write to ICANN
>> > Board
>> > > expressing concern that GNSO recommendations on IDN might be adopted
>> > > without sufficient input from the rest of the community. In the
>> > initial
>> > > draft of the letter, ICANN constituencies were identified as GAC,
>> GNSO
>> > and
>> > > ccNSO, with no mention of ALAC. On my intervention, ALAC was also
>> > > included, but somebody pointed out that ALAC is not doing any work
>> on
>> > this
>> > > matter(or has no working group on this)- just to let everybody
>> > know(!).
>> > > This letter will be going to ICANN Chair soon and I wouldn't be
>> > surprised
>> > > if we were asked to provide a substantive and detailed input.
>> > >
>> > > Siavash
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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