[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting

[Danny Younger]

I wish to support Wendy's call for a return to policy
discussions on this list, and in light of her query
regarding the WHOIS debate let me remind the list
members of the formation of the GNSO WHOIS Working
Group:

As per the GNSO resolution in Lisbon, a WHOIS Working
Group is being formed with a 120-day timeline.  All
may participate.

The Charter for the WHOIS Working
Group may be found here: 
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg03357.html

The membership of this WG extends to the following:

• Nominating Committee appointed GNSO councilors
• GNSO constituency members

In addition, observers and liaisons may join the
working group on the following basis:

Observers shall not be members of or entitled to vote
on the working group, but otherwise shall be entitled
to participate on equal footing with members of the
working group. In particular observers will be able
to join the mailing list, and attend teleconferences
or physical meetings.

Observers must provide their real name, organization
(if associated with an organization) and contact
details to the GNSO secretariat, and the GNSO
secretariat will verify at least their email address
and phone contact information. Observers will also be
requested to provide a public statement of interest,
as for working group members.

The email address of the GNSO Secretariat is 
GNSO.SECRETARIAT[at]GNSO.ICANN.ORG

I look forward to seeing some of you engaged in the
policy development process.  Please be aware that the
NCUC has challenged the language of the proposed
charter:

In considering this WG charter April 12, NCUC moves to
amend it as follows:

Under section 4b, Change the sentence "Determine how
third parties may access registration data that is no
longer available for unrestricted public
query-based access for legitimate activities." 

to... 

Determine which third parties, under which conditions,
may access registration data that is no longer
available for unrestricted public
query-based access." 


Also, strike the 8 paragraphs beginning "The GAC
policy
principles...."


Reason:
The opening sentence of 4b reads as if ANY third party
will be given access to the data for any activity. But
this begs the policy question
that the WG must answer, which is WHICH third parties
(e.g., just law enforcement agencies, or others) and
under WHAT CONDITIONS.


As for the second change, having discussed this with
GAC members, the objections of the EU to the language
was resolved by stating that some of the ACTIVITIES
that Whois data was used for was legitimate, but this
did not necessarily mean that ACCESS TO THE PRIVATE
DATA was also legitimate. Also, the Whois task force
has already determined that the purpose of Whois does
not include many of these activities, so there is
no obligation on ICANN to make the data available for
those activities.
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg03389.html



--- Wendy Seltzer <wendy at seltzer.com> wrote:

> Thompson, Darlene wrote:
> > Frankly, Wendy, I didn't like the way the rest of
> the ALSs were shut out
> > of the decision making process for the Vancouver
> meeting.  It was vetoed
> > by very few people when the rest seemed to want
> it.  At least this time
> > around it is going by group concensus rather than
> the GROUP being shut
> > out of the process.  Much better in my mind and
> much more transparency.
> 
> Perhaps you weren't on the discussion list when it
> was discussed and
> consensused down, but we tried to work
> transparently.
> 
> I'd love to have your input on policy discussions on
> the ALAC list, too!
>  How about WHOIS privacy issues?
> 
> --Wendy
> 
> > 
> >>From what I can see, ICANN has been working very
> hard to get things
> > happening despite certain ones trying there best
> to hold others back.
> > ICANN even sent their Ohmbudsman to the Vancouver
> meeting.  It was
> > interesting at the Vancouver meeting that not one
> of the "old guard"
> > ALSs, with the exception of Michael Miranda, even
> bothered to take part
> > by distance.  Frankly I think that this shows a
> dismal lack of regard to
> > the new and emerging ALSs that a face to face
> meeting could change.
> > 
> > Thank you, ICANN, for your continuing financial
> support for these
> > efforts.
> > 
> > Darlene
> > 
> > Darlene A. Thompson
> > Community Access Program Administrator
> > Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
> > c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
> > Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
> > Phone:  (867) 975-6531
> > Fax:  (867) 975-5605
> > dthompson at gov.nu.ca
> > 
> >
> -- 
> Wendy Seltzer -- wendy at seltzer.org
> Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law
> School
> Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society
> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html
> http://www.chillingeffects.org/
> 
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