[ALAC] [LAC-ALS] [NA-ALS] Major Milestone Coming Up

Danny Younger dannyyounger at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 7 15:23:03 EST 2007


Dear Andres,

Thank you for your comments.

The ALAC was officially created in December 2002.  We
have been pursuing this experiment for four long years
during which time the DNS policy-related contributions
offered by the ALS organizations has been almost nil. 
By any set of metrics, that is an undeniable failure.

Within ICANN we have the ability to recognize and deal
with failed efforts -- as an example, we have seen the
earlier DNSO (widely regarded as dsyfunctional in the
extreme) replaced by the GNSO.

I view the ALAC/RALO/ALS construct as a monumental
failure that cannot be saved by the expenditure of
additional funding or time.  

Clearly, you don't share my point of view on this
matter.  

Let me ask you this: if you were a businessman that
had to make a business decision based on the
performance record to date, would you invest in this
proposition in view of the return generated thus far?
Probably not.  

Most likely you would seek to restructure/reorganize
or find a more suitable model.  ICANN has already
spent a great deal of time and money seeking a
reasonable solution.  They commissioned the At-Large
Study to provide the Board with recommendations that
could enjoy consensus support.  This is what they
recommended:

 "The ALSC recommends the creation of an At-Large
Supporting Organization (ALSO) as vital to At-Large
participation in ICANN. The existing ICANN structure
has not fulfilled expectations of directly involving
and representing individual Internet users and their
interests.")

I don't want a powerless ALAC model that offers no
hope of representation on the ICANN Board.  I want our
community to have the benefit of a Supporting
Organization model that seats its members on the ICANN
Board... I can't imagine that you would prefer to
remain powerless and unrepresented?

regards,
Danny


--- Andres Piazza <investigaciones at densi.com.ar>
wrote:

> Dear Danny,
> 
> First of all, I`d like to say that we share your
> concern about making 
> real and effective contributions to Icann and
> specially to the areas 
> that, as you said, require improvements. Despite
> this, I respectfully 
> disagree with your opinions. The ALS process has a
> huge importance in 
> the Internet Policy Development (and should be like
> this in every other 
> political aspect). Moreover, the idea of Botton Up
> Consensus-Based 
> Process is one of the strongers in ICANN, and also
> one of the main goals 
> of ALAC: To provide the broad advice, and be related
> to the individual 
> user´s interests.
> 
> The job of being instruments for the individuals
> users, to provide their 
> empowerment, to lend they know, to poll them to get
> involved and 
> commited first, and to do their contributions later
> on, is quite tough. 
> I agree that, at this time, ALS didn´t offer the
> gratest recomendations, 
> but it is a long path to travel and (at least in the
> LACRALO), I can see 
> a great commitment in the ALS´s members, and also a
> remarkable job in 
> the some areas. It s too early to disdain the
> potencial of the 
> individual users to contribute, and it is also very
> easy for you. ICANN, 
> and specially ALAC, believes strongly in the
> construction of consensus, 
> and in the participative leadership (it is quite
> different that being a 
> cheerleader!!). I think you should start doing it
> too.
> 
> Please, dont get me wrong, I´m aware that you are
> making a great job on 
> your own, but I am convinced that your organization
> (your are the only 
> member in it) would be stronger and make better
> contributions to ICANN 
> if you nourish it with other participants. I have no
> intentions to start 
> a polemic, but I was forced to interfere because all
> At Large Community 
> is reading this mailing list, and I couldn´t lend
> someone to believe 
> that ALS are not capable to contribute.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Andres Piazza
> >
> > 		
> >
> > ** 
> >  Andres Piazza**
> >  Research Director
> > * AGEIA DENSI**.***
> > ** ********investigaciones at densi.com.ar 
> > <mailto:andresp at ip6technology.com.ar>**
> >
> 
> 



 
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