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<div>absolutely. 90% of the work should go into the problem definition.</div>

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<div dir="ltr">Don't focus on the nature of the survey (self-selected or otherwise) nor anything else (need for a firm etc.) - before wasting anybody's time and energy, start with a question whose answer is not yet known and is relevant to a decision to be made. So, what is the decision that needs to be made?
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<div class="yiv1376384606gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:11 PM Jonathan Zuck <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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We really need to hire a survey firm to develop a worthwhile sample. We shouldn't be attempting an end user survey with Survey Monkey where people self select. We shoul<span id="yiv1376384606gmail-m_2235682535427775174gmail-m_-1012357673848128328gmail-m_7377208609514210649ms-outlook-android-cursor"></span>d only use Survey Monkey with people already
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<div>Is the budget there for the design of the survey, segmentation, etc. before the first line of surveymonkey is written? What is the project? What decision will be fed by the answer to the survey?</div>


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