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Hi Dave, <br><br>
Maureen already gave the main answer and that is: this is the report of
the ALS-Mob-WP and it is reporting what the group did. The Bylaws may not
be ready for an ALAC decision, and their lack does not impact what the
ALAC must decide on. But it IS work the WP did and needs to be there if
only as a placeholder saying more is coming. Otherwise it could be
assumed the work is done and the group could be dissolved, which is not
the case.<br><br>
Lastly, Section 25 of the ICANN Bylaws describes how the process works
once it gets to the Board based on a request from the ALAC. We are not at
that stage yet and will not be until the ALAC decides (or not) to go
forward with a request to alter the Bylaws.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 2020-12-03 12:53 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">HI Dave<br><br>
Just if I may add a comment here with regards to this paragraph.<br><br>
As I have indicated before, the removal of the actual bylaw discussions
is something that was agreed upon because we did not want to hold the
report back from being presented as a report endorsed by the ALAC for any
further work required (in this case by Legal).<br><br>
However, to remove this particular paragraph would mean that we are
dismissing any reference to all the discussions the WP had about any
possible changes that might be required in the Bylaws. When these
are requested for further higher level discussions by ICANN Legal,
because they have been alluded to here, then Alan will be able to
resurrect them again.<br><br>
But I really think that this reference to proposed Bylaw Changes should
remain, to remind the WP of the other discussions that took place and how
they will be dealt with in the future - not something that we decide on
at this stage.<br><br>
But thank you for bringing your RALO's concerns to the wider
community.<br><br>
Regards<br>
Maureen<br><br>
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:34 AM Dave Kissoondoyal
<<a href="mailto:dave@igf-mu.org">dave@igf-mu.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<dl><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">Dear Alan,<br>
</font><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">I want to thank you and all the members of the
ALS Mobilization Working Party team for the number of hours devoted to
come with a comprehensive report. I want to thank you also to listen to
the voice of the community and bring the appropriate changes to the
report.<br>
</font><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">I have already voted for the approval of the
report and I have voted with a YES. However following the discussions we
had in the AFRALO monthly meeting and after careful consideration of the
points raised by members, I would humbly ask the following paragraph be
removed from the ALS Mobilization Working Party Final Report :<br>
</font><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">Proposed Bylaw Changes <br>
</b></font>
<dd><font face="Calibri" color="#002E7A">In the course of carrying out
its work, the WP identified a number of places where the Bylaws should be
modified either to align them with the current embodiment of At-Large or
to address changes in these recommendations. <br>
<dd>The proposed changes are still under discussion with the Office of
the General Counsel and will be proposed to the ALAC at a later time.
None of the recommendations in this report depend on the Bylaw change
proposals.<br>
</font><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">As there is agreement that the bylaw changes are
excluded from the report, it makes sense to remove the above paragraph
from same.<br>
</font><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">Let us tackle the changes of the bylaws as
already defined by Section 25 of the </i>bylaws.<br>
</i></font><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">Thanks and kind regards<br>
</font><br>
<dd><font face="Calibri">Dave Kissoondoyal<br>
</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"><br>
</font>
<dd>On 03/12/2020 06:46, Alan Greenberg wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">
<dd>Thanks for the comment Tijani,<br><br>
<dd>To be clear, the proposed Bylaw changes that were in the earlier
version were issues discovered while the ALS-Mob-WP performed their
duties of reviewing all of the documents. However, none of the issues
discovered (an error in the intro paragraph of the ALAC section of the
Bylaws, the confusing use of "certify" and "accredit"
and the problem of the Bylaw still referring to individual members as an
option) were actually related to the recommendation that the WP was
making related to ALSes.<br><br>
<dd>So nothing is harmed by delaying discussion of that section. And it
is important to approve the ALS-related recommendation so that we can
report to the Board that it is done (a report is required no later than
the end of December) and of course start the work of
implementation.<br><br>
<dd>Referring to the Office of the General Counsel is simply a mechanism
to ensure that there will not be any surprises down the road. There has
been abundant time for people to comment on the proposals, and short of
your comment that was based on an incorrect report version being posted,
there have been NO negative comments on the intent of what was being
proposed. Lastly, I note that it is typical in ICANN to have the legal
team do the actual drafting of Bylaws so clearly they see them before the
group concerned. Ultimately, the request to the Board to amend the Bylaws
will have to come from the ALAC and that will ensure full
support.<br><br>
<dd>Alan<br><br>
<br>
<dd>At 2020-12-02 06:06 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">
<dd><font color="#002E7A">Good morning,</font><br>
<font color="#002E7A"><br>
<dd>I see that the ALAC is asked to ratify the ALS Mobilization WP final
report that contains the following:<br>
</font>
<dd>Proposed Bylaw Changes <br>
</b>
<dd><font color="#002E7A">In the course of carrying out its work, the WP
identified a number of places where the Bylaws should be modified either
to align them with the current embodiment of At-Large or to address
changes in these recommendations. <br>
<dd>The proposed changes are still under discussion with the Office of
the General Counsel and will be proposed to the ALAC at a later time.
None of the recommendations in this report depend on the Bylaw change
proposals.<br><br>
<dd>Perhaps it̢۪s more appropriate to wait and nd have the the whole
report (with the proposed bylaw changes) submitted to the ALAC for
ratification.<br>
</font><br>
<dd><font color="#002E7A">As I said before, in my opinion, the office of
the general counsel shouldn̢۪t be consulted aboabout changes that the
ALAC didn̢۪t already approve.<br>
<dd>> <br>
<dd>My 2 cents.<br><br>
<dd> </font><br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">
<dd>Le 2 déc. 2020 à 00:58, ICANN At-Large Staff
<<a href="mailto:noreply-116500@bigpulse.com">
noreply-116500@bigpulse.com</a>> a écrit :<br><br>
<dd>Dear All, <br><br>
<dd>The ALAC has been asked the following question:<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Do you support the ratification of the ALS Mobilization Working Party
Final Report (v 28 November 2020)? Please view the report
<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/120821482/ALS-Mob-WP-Report-Final-Revised-Clean.pdf">
here</a>.<br><br>
<dd>Please note that the ALAC ratification vote will close on</u> Friday,
04 December 23:59 UTC</u>.<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Kind Regards,<br>
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