<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi all, I think nobody questions the importance of face to face meetings, but I support the idea to see each other only 2 times a year in the future:<div><br><div>1. When I was part of the meeting strategy working group in 2014 the number of three meetings was already questioned and at stake but a majority insisted that we need to meet 3 times per year in order “to get the work done. This was one reason why the middle meeting became smaller and is now called “policy meeting”</div><div><br></div><div>2. ICANN67 has proven online meetings can be possible, in fact attacking those that are interested in “getting the work done” and albeit we miss the corridor discussions at that point we can still have a chat at the next meeting which is just 3 months away. Also, the more we are getting used to it we will become better in the flow of the meeting. New tools will be introduced and people will learn how to interact virtually and effectively. </div><div><br></div><div>3. In the interest of environment we have to change our behaviour! If not now then never! I think moving one meeting to be fully virtually is a sacrifice the ICANN community can contribute. It will also save some money I hope. Money that could be dedicated for effective participation of all stakeholders. For instance travel support to the other 2 face to face meetings, or translations of key document into more languages, or high quality training tools and programmes. </div><div><br></div><div>My 2 cents!</div><div>Sandra</div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Best Sandra<div><br><div>(This message was sent from a mobile device)</div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">Am 11.04.2020 um 10:56 schrieb Ali Almeshal <dralialmeshal@gmail.com>:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">100% right Olivier .<div> <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 11, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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Dear Wolfgang,<br>
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whilst I'd like to think we can get by with only having two face to
face meetings per year, I am not convinced as I am already seeing
the limitations of such meetings.<br>
First, I believe that this is likely to negatively impact on our
community. The ALAC and Regional Leaders are a Team that is supposed
to work together towards a common goal. A vital component of a Team
is for them to work well together and a synergy to come out of this
collaboration. This is impossible by doing meetings online only. You
need the essential human face to face element. You need people to be
able to talk to each other during a break. You need bilaterals.<br>
Second, one thing which I have noticed over years of involvement at
ICANN, when the going gets tough, these moments in particularly
tough working groups where there is no consensus and we are a hair
away from a trench war, having a face to face meeting with the
corridor discussions, with other people around, with the possibility
of speaking separately with the person or group of people that do
not agree on a consensus, is a vital component part of finding the
elusive consensus. For reasons of confidentiality I cannot explain
specific examples, but I can think of dozens of times when, during a
break, a deadlock has been resolved by opposing parties meeting
quickly in a corner of the room and understanding what is the
problem, off the record, to find a solution and not end up with a
failure in the process. I have personally experienced this at many
meetings, whether at ITU, United Nations, WIPO, WEF... and of course
at ICANN. <br>
With less face to face meeting opportunities, I can foresee that
some ICANN processes are going to be delayed. I can foresee that
some ICANN processes might result in deadlock, because there is no
opportunity to meet face to face and reach a deal. Now that everyone
speaks on the record and nobody sees the facial expression, yet the
white of the eye and body language of the other persons they are
speaking with, participants end up speaking to a blank screen and
rhetoric wins over reason. In a top-down system where one person
makes the decision, this doesn't matter so much. But in a bottom-up
system where everyone has to work towards a common goal, the human
touch is a vital component, as we are not machines and never will
be.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div> I did this proposed already after virtuel@Cancun67: Lets
reform the ICANN Meeting Strategy: One Spring and one Fall ICANN
Meeting F2F, and one virtual meeting in the summer. This would
also save travel money and be good for the environment. :-))) <br>
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<div> If this works well, it may become the norm from now
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<div> However, still feeling that nothing can replace F2F.
Already missing everybody. : ( </div>
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