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Dear Wolfgang,<br>
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thank you for finally writing this history! I have been waiting for
this day for 10 years!<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/11/2019 15:44, Wolfgang
Kleinwächter wrote:<br>
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<div> Hi, <br>
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<div> here is the full background story: <br>
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<div> 1. The original bylaws (1998) did reserve 9 voting seats for
an undefined "At Large Membership". 9 other voting seats were
reserved for three SOs (DNSO, ASO, PSO). Ine seat for the CEO.
There was a "placeholder" in the bylaws because nobody knew,
what "At Large" is. An "Membership Advisory Committee" (MAC) was
formed in Singapore during the 1st ICANN meeting in February
1999 (with the Berkman Center/Jonathan Zittrain as the academic
back up). The MAC had a meeting during the 2nd ICANN in Berlin,
July 1999. It concluded to identify the At Large voting
directors via elections in the year 2000. The whole project was
seen as a pilot project for "cyberdemocracy" and a bigger role
of civil society on Internet policy making. The elections were
described as an "experiment". They were organized with the help
of a "Membership Implementation Task Force" (MITF). As a first
step, the plan was to elect five directors from the five ICANN
regions. The election was an exciting but also irritating
experience. It worked and the community (around 200 000 voters)
elected five directors which took their seat at the 2000 Annual
Meeting in LA. </div>
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<div> 2. The elections produced a lot of questions. To answer
those questions, ICANN etsbalished an "At Large Study Group"
(ALG), chaired by the former Swedish prime minister Carl Bildt.
The recommendations of the Bildt-Committee were presented at the
ICANN meeting in Montevideo, September 2001. The main
receommendation was to allow only "domainname holder" to
participate in the election to avoid a misuse and to have a
higher level of "representation" by stakeholders. Nevertheless,
the Bildt-Proposal produced a wave of criticism by civil
society. Such an approach would have excluded, inter alia,
students, which have an e-Mail address but no domain name. The
domain name is owned by the university which woulkd have only
one vote in the new proposed system. The comparison was made to
the election system in the middle ages where only "landowners"
had a right to vote. The decision was postponed to the LA Annual
Meeting in November 2001. The day after the At Large discussion
on Montevideo two planes crashed into the twin towers in NYC. </div>
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<div> 3. 9/11 changed the political environment for the
development of ICANN. ICANN was not seen anymore as a project
for "cyberdemocracy" but as a question for "cybersecurity". US
senators came to the ICANN meeting in LA and aksed tough
questions how it can be avoided that a "terrorist" get elected
into the ICANN Board of Directors. LA 2001 became the starting
point of the first ICANN reform process. </div>
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<div> 4. The ICANN reform process was completed within less than
two years. It included a restructuring of ICANN. The DNSO was
subdivided into the GNSO and the CNSO. The PSO was abolished and
transformed into "technical liason group". The elections of
Voting At Large directors were abolished. Instaed of election a
"selection" process was introduced through a new "Nomimation
Committee" (NomCom). The NomCom got the right to "select" 8
voting directors in a process, strechted over three years
(3:3:2). At Large was transfered into an "At Large Advisory
Committee" (ALAC) with one non-voting liaison in the board. New
structures with "recognized ALSs" and "RALOs", which had to sign
a MoU with ICANN, were created. To compensate At Large for the
loss of the nine voting directors, they got five seats in the
NomCom. It was intended, that the NomCom will select directors
which represent users/civil society. </div>
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<div> 5. After the reform was fixed into the new bylaws a lot of
big supporters of the At Large, Election and Cyberdemocracy
concept distanced themselves more or less from ICANN. Supporters
of the new ALAC did not really represent anymore the big civil
society NGOs. ALAC became something like a "Champions League
without Champions". A nunber of civil society organisation moved
within ICANN to the Non-Commercial User Organisation (NCUC), a
constituency iwthin the GNSO. However, the RALOs were formed,
the number of ALSs were growing and over the years, ALAC
returned to became again a more recognized player in the ICANN
family. The call for ALAC voting directors came back and
culminated into the call for holding an "At Large Summit"
(ATLAS). ATLAS 1 took place 2008 in Mexico. One sub-committee
produced a resolution which called for two voting seats for
ALAC. The Board recognized the legitimacy of such a call,
however, the compromise was to change the non-voting ALAC
liaison in the Board into a Voting Director, elected by the ALAC
itself. <br>
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<div> 6. This is the situation which stands until now. In my eyes,
ATLAS III (recently in Montreal) was a missed opportunity to
have a more strategic oriented discussion about the role and
future of At Large (user, civil society) in ICANN as a whole.
This was also a missed opportunity to ask for a second voting
seat in the Board. However, it was good to see that NCUC and
ALAC entered into a more constructive and forward looking
dialogue which ould lead to a stronger voice of the user/civil
society stakeholder group within the empowered community. <br>
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<div> 7. With the IANA transition and the emergence of the
"empowered community" we have reached a new situation. However,
this is not the end of the story. In my eyes there is a need for
something like a Work Stream 3 (WS3) which looks deeper into the
existing structure of ICANN and how it matches the needs of the
2020s or whether a structural reform is needed to adjust it to
the new challenges in a post-IANA transition period. With other
words, ATLAS IV (2024?) could re-introduce the call for a 2nd AT
Large voting director. <br>
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<div> Best wishes <br>
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<div> <br>
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<div> Wolfgang <br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Kaili Kan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com"><kankaili@gmail.com></a> hat
am 17. November 2019 um 06:06 geschrieben: <br>
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<div> As I understand, it was decided at the beginning that
ALAC would have two seats, but then was reduced to one seat
for some reason. </div>
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<div> Kaili </div>
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<div class="ox-e327ca6bf8-gmail_attr" dir="ltr"> On Sun, Nov
17, 2019 at 4:16 AM Alan Greenberg < <a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>
wrote: <br>
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<div> Other ACs have a Liaison. But At-Large is thr only
part of ICANN that appoints full voting Board Members and
has only one. <br>
<br>
Alan <br>
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos. <br>
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<div class="ox-e327ca6bf8-gmail_quote"> On November 16,
2019 2:57:36 PM EST, Johan Helsingius < <a
target="_blank" href="mailto:julf@julf.com"
rel="noopener" moz-do-not-send="true">julf@julf.com</a>>
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<pre>On 16-11-19 18:22, Kaili Kan wrote:
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<blockquote> Hopefully, sometime in the future
At-Large would get its second seat on <br>
the Board. <br>
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Do other ACs have more than one seat?
Julf</pre>
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