<div dir="auto">Thanks for revealing this Vanda...<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am inspired by you to reveal for the sake of additional example, that also having shall we say a fairly long history in ICANN marks include the 1st AGM in LA as a remote participation attendee, and having also done previous iterations of all sorts of capacity building activities, including earlier versions of ICANN Learn, I also to share the experience of the travel support applicants (noting I am funded from other sources, being ATRT3 Co-Chair etc., and so never considered application) and having been part of the Leadership Team in the previous ATLAS events and activities, I also completed all the ICANN Learn courses... And I mean all of them to assist in discussing what ones to include as required material, as well as the full webinar program in EN program... It is based on my practice of many years of not expecting others to do what I have not done myself I suppose, and it did not impinge 'too much' on my volunteer time nor effect my other ICANN activity to the best of my knowledge...<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes much of the material is basic, but the purpose of it was, I gather, to ensure a known basic standard of knowledge to work the ATLASIII program from...</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 05:34 Vanda Scartezini <<a href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org">vanda@scartezini.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I did all those, because rules in a worldwide selection are there to be followed, no exception shall be made if there was a selection criteria.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am sorry not to have well prepared people attending ATLAS III, but I see no point in complain against the rules clearer stated before the beginning of the process.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> on behalf of John Laprise <<a href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jlaprise@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 15:02<br>
<b>To: </b>Humberto Carrasco <<a href="mailto:hcarrasco@cmsz.cl" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hcarrasco@cmsz.cl</a>><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] Fwd: ATLASIII Participation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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El 11-07-2019, a la(s) 13:55, John Laprise <<a href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jlaprise@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Making exceptions would have opened a can of worms we decided to leave sealed, for better or worse.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in">Did you apply? I was not on the evaluating team but as I understand it there were very few applications from NARALO<u></u><u></u></p>
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