<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Thank you Roberto,</span><span class="gmail_default"> for bringing the issue of data points.</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">As you all know ATLAS III Program working group has sub-groups and one of the subgroups is Outcome </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">You can find a prepared page to track activities of participants for Post ATLAS follow up. (It is still empty)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/Post+ATLAS+Follow+Ups" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/Post+ATLAS+Follow+Ups</a> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I would like to direct the discussion on this thread to provide suggestions for collecting data points. It is important to start finding the effort for self-learning of ATLAS III participants after attending the meeting. So they will be able to pick on certain policy discussions of their interest and start to value-added contributions. Attending meetings and putting +1 doesn't mean an engagement, but until the outcomes of written inputs that when we say that we are harvesting the results of this participation. We also have to remember that there is a learning curve to get up to the expertise level. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hence I invite the community to start providing their ideas on how to develop which data points to be collected. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Looking forward to hearing from you,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best wishes,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Nadira ALARAJ</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 19:05 Roberto Gaetano <<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">John,<br>
I am in full agreement with you about the identification of the problem and the need to find a solution that will necessarily include sanctions for the bad behaviours.<br>
However, I think that the problem is complex, and that we need to give some deeper thought about how to solve it.<br>
I am thinking, for instance, that ICANN has a similar problem with fellowship or other programmes that provide travel support. Can we collect information about how ICANN deals with that? Also, I am under the impression that the different participants to fellowship and similar programmes have obligations to fulfil, that their presence is checked, and so on.<br>
We can start making clear that some of these measures might be applied in Montreal - it is not to “control”, but to collect data points. As of today, we do not know to which extent the problem exists - for instance, to the best of my knowledge we did not check attendance at the previous ATLAS.<br>
I have a related - but not completely - question. Now that the selection of the participants who will enjoy travel support has been made, can we remove the limitation to participation to the ATLAS III Programme Committee? Incidentally, although this topic is not fully in scope of that Committee, maybe a first reflection on the topic could be done there?<br>
Thanks,<br>
Roberto<br>
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> On 09.07.2019, at 16:40, Humberto Carrasco <<a href="mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">hcarrascob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear John,<br>
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> I am with you. I believe there is all travellers must comply with Atlas III goals. Travelling to Canada is not a vacation. However, instead of saying 3 years, I would say for any ICANN funding for 5 years or the next ATLAS meeting. If I remember well the last ATLAS meeting was 2014 (5 years ago)<br>
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> El 09-07-2019, a la(s) 10:16, John Laprise <<a href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jlaprise@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br>
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>> I would like us all to consider consequences for ATLASIII participants who travel but do not participate (excepting reasons of illness etc). This is a serious, professional responsibility and should be treated as such. <br>
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>> For a start, I would suggest that participants who fail to participate should be ineligible for funding and elections for 3 years.<br>
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>> I look forward to conversation on this topic leading to action by the ALAC.<br>
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>> John Laprise, Ph.D.<br>
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