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    Dear Maureen,<br>
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    adding to your email - the ALAC and At-Large community are regular
    targets of such criticism based on targeted, unbalanced research
    that has only one aim in mind: to discredit it. <br>
    As the French saying goes, "if you want to kill your dog, say it has
    rabies".<br>
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    To me, it means that the At-Large is actually raising valid points
    that really bother vested parties and in order to discredit ALAC
    advice, it is being accused of originating from vested parties.<br>
    <br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/06/2019 05:40, Maureen Hilyard
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      <div dir="ltr">For those of you on the At-Large Community Skype
        Chat, I think that this is also the view of most of us. Thank
        you Judith.
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        <div>It is extremely difficult to attempt to combine the
          diversity of views and perspectives from within At-Large on
          some very complex ICANN issues into one document without
          producing a tome. Our penholders do a great job acknowledging
          the different views that may have support among a number and
          therefore need to be included, while at the same time having
          to craft a fairly succinct script that details these views in
          some logical and coherent way. I am very grateful for those
          who do come along to the CPWG to share their inputs and to the
          penholders who do the job of creating our statements on behalf
          of At-Large. I say ignore the critics.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 12:45
          AM Judith Hellerstein <<a
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            <p>HI Glenn,</p>
            <p>As one of the people being slandered by the article,  I
              think best to ignore it.  He got many things wrong. I am
              not on the ISOC DC Council, but am on the leadership team,
              but his angle was ISOC and let's bad mouth them so he
              takes everything out of perspective. However it is just
              like the Trolls, feeding them by responding is never a
              good thing. So best is to ignore them. If he had done more
              digging he would have realized that Shane Tews is an
              Officer of the Washington DC ISOC Chapter, but his point
              was to bash ISOC and At Large and for people in the BC to
              bash the domain industry so he overlooked all evidence to
              the contrary<br>
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            <p>Best,</p>
            <p>Judith<br>
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              6/25/2019 9:21 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">I think its important to address the
                issues  raised in the  article.  We made a special
                effort to discuss the .Biz. Asia and Biz new price caps
                with Jon Zuck and George Kirikos in a video on NARALO
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                                      <div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019
                  at 8:35 PM Evan Leibovitch <<a
                    href="mailto:evan@telly.org" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">evan@telly.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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                      Let's see if it gets past moderation.</div>
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                      2019 at 13:40, Carlton Samuels <<a
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                        <div dir="auto">Interesting read. At least some 
                          folks seem to be paying attention to what is
                          done.</div>
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                        <div dir="auto">Carlton</div>
                        <div dir="auto">‐--------------------------</div>
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