<div dir="auto"><div>FYI, from one of a few on the domain investor business side who impress me as a sober, evidence-persuaded  commentator,  my friend Antony gave me permission to share this private note. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Antony Van Couvering</strong> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avc@avc.vc">avc@avc.vc</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018, 7:41 pm<br>Subject: Re: [At-Large] For Sale - Entire names spaces.<br>To: Carlton Samuels <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br>
  
    
  
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    <font face="Calibri">Hi Carlton, <br>
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      So many expectations about new gTLDs have been proven wrong --
      those of both proponents and opponents -- that some of the
      commitments made at launch are out of date or uneconomical or
      both.  Effectively you have a bunch of TLDs that no-one wants
      because the applicants were so eager to appease trademark holders,
      or GAC, or ICANN, or local governments, that they agreed to all
      kinds of things they shouldn't have from an economic perspective.
      This is particularly true of those who sought to evade competition
      by filing as a community, or those who wouldn't / couldn't argue
      with restrictions imposed by city governments.  <br>
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      You can argue whether that's good or bad, but there's certainly an
      economic cost to the gTLD registries who did that, both in terms
      of registration volume but also in resale value.  Sponsoring
      organizations and governments who are getting a revenue share
      might also regret having imposed conditions, but I'm not sure
      there's a way out for "community" applications, because they won
      based on those very restrictions. <br>
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      If ICANN's guidebook for the next round is as opaque as the first
      one, and if the various outside committees/consultants examining
      the applications are as arbitrary and weird in their results, the
      same effect will occur again: applicants won't know if they're
      going to pass or not, so they will restrict themselves needlessly
      in order to get half a loaf instead of nothing at all.  <br>
      <br>
      Antony<br>
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          Anthony:</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">I share
          your view on this. My line was really a teaser to hopefully
          bring out contrary opinions I've heard.  </div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">A few of
          our brethren have argued that if the original conditionals
          were elements for the reduced valuation then maybe the full
          value could not be realized without shedding them. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Cheers,</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 1:12 PM Antony Van
          Couvering <<a href="mailto:avc@avc.vc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">avc@avc.vc</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <font face="Calibri">Hi
              Carlton, <br>
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              I'm pretty certain that the buyer would have to embrace
              all of the commitments. Otherwise, It would be pretty easy
              to evade restrictions, particularly those of "community"
              TLDs that restrict the sale or use of second-level names. 
              If that were allowed, you could simply sell it to another
              party (that you happened to control) to escape the
              original commitments. In my experience ICANN  is very
              punctilious when it comes to registry commitments<br>
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              One proof of this is that TLDs are valued at a lower (or
              higher) price depending on what their commitments are,
              because prospective buyers don't want a TLD that has
              restrictions that don't fit their business model or
              vision. <br>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">What
                    would be interesting is if conveyancing embraces
                    every and all of the original commitments.</div>
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