<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It is and it is not our problem to get into it. I guess it will eventually transpire into our thoughts. But we should remain objective and look at the interest of the society at large. <br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 20, 2018, at 17:16, gtheo <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" class="">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Danko is correct, in my opinion, Eurid is now part of a political game between the UK and the EU.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Theo Geurts<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Danko Jevtović schreef op 2018-08-20 01:53 PM:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I understand that it is not up to EURID, but to EC (European<br class="">Commission), that hold the contract with EURID to manage to TLDs.<br class="">The problem seems to be that possible solution (grandfathering clause)<br class="">cannot be discussed outside of the whole package of Brexit<br class="">negotiations, effectively blocking any reasonable progress.<br class="">Danko<br class="">FROM: At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> ON BEHALF OF<br class="">Roberto Gaetano<br class="">SENT: Monday, August 20, 2018 1:09 PM<br class="">TO: <a href="mailto:bzs@theworld.com" class="">bzs@theworld.com</a><br class="">CC: At Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br class="">SUBJECT: Re: [At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about<br class="">Hi Barry.<br class="">You might have a point in principle.<br class="">However the reality is that each TLD can decide its own rules, and<br class="">therefore whether to be strict in terms of requirements - like for<br class="">instance .bank - or loose - like for instance .com.<br class="">.eu has chosen the first approach, and has all right to do so. Whether<br class="">EURID is willing to make an exception for Brexit - based also on the<br class="">consideration that, as far as I know, they do not make continuous<br class="">checking about whether the resistant still complies with the<br class="">requirements - or not, I don’t know. Apparently not.<br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Roberto<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 17.08.2018, at 19:31, <a href="mailto:bzs@theworld.com" class="">bzs@theworld.com</a> wrote:<br class="">Ok I'll say it...<br class="">How many of these affected *.EU domains were actually entities with<br class="">some sort of EU charter or relationship as the TLD was approved for<br class="">in<br class="">2005?<br class="">I realize it's naive to point out that .NET was for networking<br class="">organizations and .ORG for not-for-profits etc. in a world where we<br class="">have .XYZ and .FAIL (must they really be FAILures?)<br class="">Ok that ship has sailed because no one wanted to enforce it as it<br class="">would interfere with maximazing domain sales in those TLDs.<br class="">But are we really supposed to get lathered up about those who now<br class="">got<br class="">burned flouting all that?<br class="">What promise do those affected actually expect to be upheld? Chapter<br class="">and verse not "well, we assumed..."?<br class="">And, no, marching out one or two bona-fide examples doesn't quite<br class="">rise<br class="">to a counter argument.<br class="">If there were only one or two or ten I'll guess they could be<br class="">handled<br class="">since they would have always had a legitimae reason to represent<br class="">themselves with a .EU domain which one would hope would allow them<br class="">some explicit accommodation.<br class="">--<br class="">-Barry Shein<br class="">Software Tool & Die | <a href="mailto:bzs@TheWorld.com" class="">bzs@TheWorld.com</a> |<br class=""><a href="http://www.TheWorld.com" class="">http://www.TheWorld.com</a><br class="">Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD<br class="">The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">At-Large mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large<br class="">At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">At-Large mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large" class="">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large</a><br class="">At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">At-Large mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large" class="">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large</a><br class=""><br class="">At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org</div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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