<div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Sorry, but what on earth do you mean?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If I have all my headed paper, business cards etc etc using a .eu domain name and I move to another domain extension I lose all that *<b>if</b>* the .eu domain name is either deleted, suspended or simply registered to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">It’s very different to a simple rebranding exercise where you retain control of the original domain name and can setup pointers, redirects etc.,</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True. But in the event that control over the domain name goes away due to EXTERNAL factors beyond control, (as in this case the brexit related .EU directive coming into force), the alternative to the domain registering finding a c/o street address (which may be illegal) or actually maintaining a street presence (which may not be legally feasible or not affordable) the least harmful alternative (or relief) would be for the hosting environment to allow the registrant to migrate his account and all his content to a new domain of his own choice. At present (possibly due to some limitations or safeguards he is unable to use a new non EU domain to preserve his email account linked to the .EU domain name. </div><div><br></div><div>Sivasubramanian M</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_7188747772505584752WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">For example we used to use <a href="http://blacknight.ie" target="_blank">blacknight.ie</a> for our website and email. We don’t anymore, but you’d never notice as we still retain control of the domain.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Michele<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank">https://michele.blog/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank">https://ceo.hosting/</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> on behalf of sivasubramanian muthusamy <<a href="mailto:6.internet@gmail.com" target="_blank">6.internet@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 15 August 2018 at 10:36<br>
<b>To: </b>gtheo <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>At-Large Worldwide <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 2:28 PM gtheo <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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a violation of the registry agreement if I am correct.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One alternative solution that would mitigate the hardships for at least a few of the 300k .EU (and the registrants other gTLD and ccTLD registries that may in future decide for one compelling reason or another to drop some domains) could
arise from the Domain management services (which in this case, in this or expanded technical capacity, is Google) who could make it possible for these users to migrate to another domain name of their choice.<u></u><u></u></p>
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The latest news and info can be located here; <br>
<a href="https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/" target="_blank">https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/</a><br>
We are talking around 300k .EU registrations for possible deletion.<br>
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Theo Geurts<br>
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sivasubramanian muthusamy schreef op 2018-08-15 02:31 AM:<br>
> Hello,<br>
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> Someone who is a UK citizen some years ago registered a .EU internet<br>
> domain name. This happens to be linked to a legacy Google account<br>
> which his family uses. The domain Registry has now advised that it<br>
> will be terminating .EU domains for UK individuals and organisations<br>
> as early as next year. The legacy Google account will not permit him<br>
> to change the domain name, and doing so would create a whole range of<br>
> complications in any case.<br>
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> One solution is to maintain business or residential presence in EU in<br>
> some manner ifor the sake of the domain. Is there lany alternative<br>
> solutions please?<br>
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> Sivasubramanian M<br>
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