<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Quick, question. When is a pig not a pig?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Answer: When its wearing lipstick and you name it Ms Piggy!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">-Carlton</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>==============================<br><i><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Carlton A Samuels</font></i><br><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i></font><br>=============================</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:29 PM Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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ICANN is *NOT* a regulator, a function that requires government granting
of powers. But it does, via contracts, perform regulatory-type functions
and controls.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 13/07/2018 05:34 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="m_-6734703369397852547cite">Every ICANN president has
vigorously asserted that ICANN is not a regulator. This is not merely a
casual opinion, it is a demand imposed upon them by ICANN's lawyers. To
admit that ICANN is a regulator - - or even provides some regulatory
function - - is to invite even deeper state scrutiny and attempts to make
ICANN into a multilateral, treaty-based body than now exists. <br><br>
In a submission to ICANN's Accountability and Transparency review team
more than a decade ago, a number of At-Large members submitted an
analysis that called on ICANN to recognize the obvious and embrace its
inner regulator:<br><br>
<a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-atrt2-02apr13/pdfNKvEtbrZ3u.pdf" target="_blank">
https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-atrt2-02apr13/pdfNKvEtbrZ3u.pdf</a>
<br><br>
Not much has changed. While a few references are dated, the paper's
observations and commentaries are as valid now as then. <br><br>
___________________<br>
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto<br>
@evanleibovitch/@el56<br><br>
On Jul 13, 2018 5:13 PM, "Kan Kaili"
<<a href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com" target="_blank">kankaili@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<dd>Indeed Goran has said "ICANN is not a regulator" many
times. I have heard him saying that myself. However, this is
something I disagree with him.<br><br>
<dd>Again, in my personal opinion, as long as the positioning of ICANN
stays blurry as it is now, the confusion will only accumulate until it
creats a crisis.<br><br>
<br>
<dd>Kaili<br><br>
<br><br>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>
<dd>From: "Johan Helsingius"
<<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>><br>
<dd>To:
<<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">
at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
<dd>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 8:33 PM<br>
<dd>Subject: Re: [At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] Vistaprint is abandoning
.vista<br><br>
<br>
<dd>> On 12-07-18 19:56, Kan Kaili wrote:<br>
<dd>>> In my opinion, ICANN should play the role of a
regulator.<br>
<dd>> <br>
<dd>> Our esteemed CEO, Göran Marby, has a number of phrases he
repeats<br>
<dd>> fairly often. "ICANN is not a regulator" is one of
them.<br>
<dd>> <br>
<dd>> Julf<br>
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