<div><div dir="auto">I wonder whether there is a wider conversation here to be had about many of the economic premises and justifications behind new gTLDs...</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:48 AM Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple">Yes. Was just answering Olivier's question.</div><div lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><br>
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.</div><div lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On July 11, 2018 10:28:38 AM EDT, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">That’s a tiny amount of money for a Fortune 500 etc<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 11 July 2018 at 15:27<br>
<b>To: </b>Olivier Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>>, Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>>, Carlton Samuels <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>>, At-Large Worldwide <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [lac-discuss-en] [At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Over and above anything else, there is the $25k annual registry fee plus whatever their registry operator is charging them.<br>
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Alan<br>
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At 11/07/2018 09:42 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Michele,<br>
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I wonder why they are dropping it. Does it cost them more in the long run, than using several composed domains?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
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Olivier<br>
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On 11/07/2018 10:27, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<br>
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It’s a .brand – zero “normal†registrants or users will be impacted<br>
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If it was a TLD with actual registrations then it would be a totally different matter, but it isn’t.<br>
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Michele<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 10 July 2018 at 21:10<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>[At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista<br>
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Maybe we should track these 'returns/abandonments' and in context, [re]read the recommendations of the Subsequent Procedures WG?
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Saw a story of a domain investor account of his return on investment so far; he's in the red with diminishing prospects.
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On top of these kind of stories that speak to the conditions in the end user market and the 'retired and/or abandoned gLTDs, it just seems 'otherworldly' to me that in all the happy talk of new rounds, this idea that demand has something to do with markets
is largely left unmentioned. Helluva thing!<br>
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<a href="https://domainnamewire.com/2018/07/10/vistaprint-drops-vista-top-level-domain/" target="_blank">https://domainnamewire.com/2018/07/10/vistaprint-drops-vista-top-level-domain/</a>
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