<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Derek Smythe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:derek@aa419.org" target="_blank">derek@aa419.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Michael <br>
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<p>Since I have no dog in this fight - no financial interests,
rather purely altruistic from a <b>global </b>perspective and as
thus not <i>compromised</i>:</p>
<p>This is an issue local to the USA. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">No. It is not local to the USA. It starts here, sets the trend and infects the whole world.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>The world does not end on US
shores. The US population only makes out something like 4.5% of
the world population. This is a global list. <br>
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<p>While what your say may have relevance in your geographical area,
it does not belong on this list as this is not ICANN's remit as
was explained. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">What is in ICANN's remit? Registry business? Why not reduce it to a commercial for-profit corporation franchising out Domain Names?</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>As such, by the time your message reaches halfway
around the world, it translates to nothing more than noise on this
list. <br>
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<p>Please find an appropriate forum using the appropriate mechanisms
to address this. <br>
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<p>Thanks.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<pre class="m_-4236663717254011894moz-signature" cols="70">Derek </pre></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<div class="m_-4236663717254011894moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-12-07 04:58 AM, William Michael
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<div dir="ltr">This, really, is the question.
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<div>The answer is so clear that attempts to deny the relevance
of this policy MUST give rise to questions about interest and
compromise. I suppose one should question the more aggressive
discussants about their financial position relative to any
benefit that might accrue to them, their clients or their
employers from higher internet access fees and lower internet
access and reliability for the majority of the poor and people
of color in the geographic regions affected. Or, it may simply
be a cultural issue. If your income is higher than the income
for the average human being living on earth today, you might
be in a privileged (compromised ) position financially, and
thus unable to fully understand the impact this proposed
policy will have. (Note that I fall into that category. My
experience and perspective simply gives me an awareness that
others, apparently, lack.)
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<div>Calls for "proof" are an old trick, since there is no
proof that would suffice for those requesting it. The
request for proof is itself irrelevant, since the question
does not concern what policy stance ICANN should take
relative to NN, but, rather, a rational recognition that,
according to the stated goals of the organization, this FCC
policy WILL have an impact. The honest thing to do is to
describe and prepare for that impact is it relates to the
broader social (access, diversity, income) goals of the
organization, not to retreat behind a narrow interpretation
of the duties and obligations of this organization. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:53 PM,
Sivasubramanian M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com" target="_blank">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<p dir="ltr">John, <br>
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<p dir="ltr">Are you saying that it is none of ICANN's
concern what happens to the Internet?</p>
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Sivasubramanian M<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 5, 2017 8:31 AM, "John
R. Levine" <<a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com" target="_blank">johnl@iecc.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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Interesting. Suggest you look again.<br>
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Thanks for confirming that we have both looked at
each of the 125 paragraphs of the FCC's recent
order, as well as Appendices A and B, and the
statements of the various commissioners and we
agree that there is nothing affecting the
operation of the Internet's identfiers that would
be relevant to ICANN.<br>
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R's,<br>
John
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