<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Alejandro, that means you have it right too!<div><br></div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Javier Rúa-Jovet<div><br></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">+1-787-396-6511</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">twitter: @javrua</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">skype: javier.rua1</span></div><div><font color="#000000" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua</a> </font></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br>El dic. 7, 2017, a la(s) 12:30 p. m., Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <<a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx">apisan@unam.mx</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>Derek, Javier and John have it right. </div>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 07 de diciembre de 2017 05:14<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> Derek Smythe<br>
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<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [At-Large] FCC TO SCRAP NET NEUTRALITY<br>
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<p>Since I have no dog in this fight - no financial interests, rather purely altruistic from a
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No. It is not local to the USA. It starts here, sets the trend and infects the whole world.</div>
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<p>The world does not end on US shores. The US population only makes out something like 4.5% of the world population. This is a global list.
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<p>While what your say may have relevance in your geographical area, it does not belong on this list as this is not ICANN's remit as was explained.
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What is in ICANN's remit? Registry business? Why not reduce it to a commercial for-profit corporation franchising out Domain Names?</div>
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<p>As such, by the time your message reaches halfway around the world, it translates to nothing more than noise on this list.
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<p>Please find an appropriate forum using the appropriate mechanisms to address this.
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<div>The answer is so clear that attempts to deny the relevance of this policy MUST give rise to questions about interest and compromise. I suppose one should question the more aggressive discussants about their financial position relative to any benefit that
might accrue to them, their clients or their employers from higher internet access fees and lower internet access and reliability for the majority of the poor and people of color in the geographic regions affected. Or, it may simply be a cultural issue. If
your income is higher than the income for the average human being living on earth today, you might be in a privileged (compromised ) position financially, and thus unable to fully understand the impact this proposed policy will have. (Note that I fall into
that category. My experience and perspective simply gives me an awareness that others, apparently, lack.)
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<div>Calls for "proof" are an old trick, since there is no proof that would suffice for those requesting it. The request for proof is itself irrelevant, since the question does not concern what policy stance ICANN should take relative to NN, but, rather, a
rational recognition that, according to the stated goals of the organization, this FCC policy WILL have an impact. The honest thing to do is to describe and prepare for that impact is it relates to the broader social (access, diversity, income) goals of the
organization, not to retreat behind a narrow interpretation of the duties and obligations of this organization. <br>
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Interesting. Suggest you look again.<br>
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Thanks for confirming that we have both looked at each of the 125 paragraphs of the FCC's recent order, as well as Appendices A and B, and the statements of the various commissioners and we agree that there is nothing affecting the operation of the Internet's
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