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    <p>Evan</p>
    <p>Thanks for your frank description of the phenomenon that ICANN
      is, and its new age governance model, which is basically a
      neoliberal capture. it is a governance model run by big business,
      and openly so. <br>
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    <p>I think people here see it but dont do anything bec perhaps they
      think that the potential of damage by ICANN isnt that much, and
      then Internet debates are still framed by that gov/UN takeover
      threat, while the context today is hugely if not entirely changed.</p>
    <p>Read this piece in CirleID  
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20170420_usa_pharma_sector_extending_dysfunctional_pricing_to_cyberspace/">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20170420_usa_pharma_sector_extending_dysfunctional_pricing_to_cyberspace/</a> 
      to see how ICANN by allocating crucial digital name-posts to
      vested interests and big business (largely US based) can cause
      enormous damage that we have not even begun to think about, lost
      that we remain in petty issues that ICANN throws at us, and for
      which even it doesnt listen to us.</p>
    <p>In the above you will read how by inappropriately allocating a
      key sectoral gLTD to a small group of big business which is known
      to have geo-economic interests at variance with much of the world,
      and whose interests hit at crucial global health concerns, ICANN
      has made that group a de facto sector regulator -- in an area as
      socially crucial as health and pharmaceuticals!</p>
    <p>And it is not that people havent raised concerns about such
      possibilities. See <a
href="https://www.itforchange.net/sites/default/files/Jurisdiction%20of%20ICANN.pdf">this
        civil society statement </a>of a few months back which raised
      exactly this prospect of .pharmacy's ownership being used for de
      facto pharma sector regulation by US's big pharma.  <br>
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    <p>This will also happen with automobile industry (.cars),  and
      every .sector.... you name it!</p>
    <p>Would then the section of global civil society that was supposed
      to be protecting public interest wrt issues pertaining to ICANN
      not be called upon to account for how it let all this happen? Does
      such a prospect bother anyone here?</p>
    <p>parminder <br>
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        <div style="FONT: 9pt 宋体">----- Original Message ----- </div>
        <div style="FONT: 9pt 宋体; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:
          black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            title="evan@telly.org" href="mailto:evan@telly.org">Evan
            Leibovitch</a> </div>
        <div style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            title="kankaili@gmail.com" href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com">Kan
            Kaili</a> </div>
        <div style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            title="at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
            href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">ICANN
            At-Large list</a> </div>
        <div style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 15, 2017 6:53
          AM</div>
        <div style="FONT: 9pt 宋体"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [At-Large] Auction
          Proceeds - where we are and what you can help</div>
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            class="gmail_default"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)">On 14 May 2017 at
              16:55, Kan Kaili </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)" dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com"
                target="_blank">kankaili@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><span
              style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR:
              rgb(34,34,34)"> wrote:</span><br>
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                  <div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">I fully agree with
                      you that certain sections of ICANN, primarily from
                      the registry/registrar side, may resist
                      discouraging domain parking out of their own
                      financial interests.  However, ICANN, according to
                      its mandate as defined by the Bylaws, is to
                      protect the "public interest".  As I understand
                      it, this means foremost to protect the end-users'
                      interest.</span></div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">​Your perception
                  is a minority view. While ICANN may be considered to
                  be acting in the public service as an organization,
                  the role and voice of the end-user is expressly stated
                  (and limited) in the ICANN bylaws. ​Only a single
                  member of the entire ICANN Board is chosen by
                  representatives of the end-user viewpoint; even a
                  Board review that recommended two Board spots was cut
                  back down.</div>
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                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default"><br>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">Furthermore,
                  ICANN stands back while the vested interests
                  constantly assail the legitimacy of ALAC. The At-Large
                  Review is a perfect recent example, with the reviewers
                  commenting at length on perceptions by other
                  communities (who want to silence us) at the expense of
                  the intrinsic value of having anyone speaking for the
                  end-user interests.</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">When I was
                  NARALO chair we were trolled frequently by people from
                  the domain industry imploring "aren't I part of the
                  public too?" And any time you go to an ALAC session
                  with the term "public interest" in the title, no
                  matter what the original intent the meeting devolves
                  into an hour-long talk-fest without outcome agonizing
                  about "what is the public interest?".</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">Welcome to
                  ICANN, where the vested interests have an effective
                  game plan to keep any potential obstacles divisive and
                  ineffective.</div>
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                  <div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">Otherwise, ICANN
                      will become a DNS industry association and
                      advocator, no longer to be trusted by the public.</span></div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">​Some would
                  argue that this has already happened, and that​
                  At-Large is a mainly cosmetic appendage that ICANN
                  indulges to give it an outward appearance of public
                  input. It funds competent and well-meaning staff for
                  At-Large, and (within strict and arbitrary limits)
                  funds its outreach and capacity-building dreams. But
                  when it comes time for At-Large to actually affect
                  ICANN's grand direction the wins are minor.</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">​At the first
                  At-Large Summit in Mexico City, our final report said
                  that the gTLD expansion was "unacceptable" in its
                  proposed state at the time. Very little had changed
                  when the program finally rolled out, and I remind that
                  the position has never officially been rescinded. I
                  highly doubt that the Summit report was even read by
                  the President and Board Chair to whom it was
                  presented.</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">There have been
                  a number of changes at senior management, all in turn
                  publicly telling At-Large how important we are. Yet I
                  invite you to find concrete evidence of our actual
                  big-picture influence.</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">​Everyone should
                  ask themselves: we may have tweaked some things and
                  have produced plenty of volume -- but <b>how has
                    ICANN better, in its management of domain names,
                    because of At-Large</b>?​</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">​At our best we
                  have helped with course corrections which can be seen
                  more as damage control than forward-thinking. We ha​ve
                  produced white papers and policy statements that were
                  painstakingly developed yet received not a word of
                  official reply (let alone action!) beyond gratitude
                  for the effort.</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">​Yes, I'm
                  cynical. I have some right to be, I've helped develop
                  some of the advice, endorsed by ALAC, which has been
                  ignored. I've witnessed a lot of the insults,
                  dismissals and rejections first-hand. I stay involved
                  in the hope that my successors will have better luck
                  than I. But based on current activity, such as the
                  inevitable march towards new gTLD rounds despite the
                  problems with the last round, the challenges remain as
                  much as ever.​ And the At-Large Review, if all of it
                  is implemented, will make the situation even worse.</div>
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                <div style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR:
                  rgb(11,83,148)" class="gmail_default">​- Evan​</div>
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