<div dir="ltr"><div>most of messengers (group chat) platforms support low bandwidth and doesn't require any development and support.<br></div><div>it would be interesting to know who from Atlarge community is not using any messenger.<br></div>wbr --andrei<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-21 21:50 GMT+03:00 Johan Helsingius <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Especially if your bandwidth is limited or sporadic, then email<br>
is by far the most efficient way to communicate.<br>
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Julf<br>
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On 21-02-17 16:53, Vanda Scarteziniwrote:<br>
<span class="">> I am supporting Alex here , we really need to improve online<br>
> communication, using as much as possible mobile facilities to reach<br>
> everyone.<br>
><br>
> I normally work with my foreign clients using Webex ,that is like<br>
> Adobe, but all of those software that I know are still working poorly<br>
> in mobiles than in computers , not providing ,or providing with some<br>
> constrains. some of the facilities provided to computers.<br>
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> Alejandro Baruch <<a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx">apisan@unam.mx</a>><br>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 2:39 AM<br>
> *To: *Carlton Samuels <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>>, Seth M Reiss<br>
> <<a href="mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com">seth.reiss@lex-ip.com</a>><br>
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> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please<br>
<div><div class="h5">><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> waxing nostalgic for face-to-face communication in a group that is<br>
> discussing how online communications don't scale satisfactorily is a<br>
> bit more than paradoxal.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> And certainly it is out of place at the rise of a new era of<br>
> increased restrictions on travel and ingress to countries and regions.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It is also notable given the experience that even Karl as an ICANN<br>
> Director only attended one meeting outside the US during his tenure.<br>
> Today at least one Director is liable to be barred by law in the<br>
> opposite direction, and many more in the community will have to<br>
> think twice before joining.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Can we go back to a realistic discussion on improving online<br>
> communication for a set of participants many of whom are impeded to<br>
> access high-bandwidth, powerful-interface connections and devices?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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<span class="">> [<a href="mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large-bounces@atlarge-<wbr>lists.icann.org</a>] en nombre de Carlton<br>
> Samuels [<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>]<br>
</span>> *Enviado el:* lunes, 20 de febrero de 2017 15:54<br>
> *Hasta:* Seth M Reiss<br>
> *CC:* At-Large Worldwide<br>
> *Asunto:* Re: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please<br>
<span class="">><br>
> ...I so feel your pain! I like talking f2f....and reading body<br>
> language.<br>
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> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Seth M Reiss <<a href="mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com">seth.reiss@lex-ip.com</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com">seth.reiss@lex-ip.com</a>><wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> There used to be two of us on this small Island, and he was good<br>
> at talking<br>
> over a beer, but then he (Randal) left :(<br>
><br>
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> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond<br>
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> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please<br>
><br>
> This is an interesting thread. However, it tends to express<br>
> solutions that<br>
> are all based on technology.<br>
><br>
> It has been my experience that technical means of communication<br>
> work best<br>
> when they are punctuated by actual face-to-face meetings. Now,<br>
> I do not<br>
> mean grand and glorious jet-setting meetings but, rather, informal,<br>
> self-organized get-togethers of people in two's, three's, ...<br>
> even a dozen.<br>
><br>
> This kind of face-to-face this is important. It is pretty<br>
> amazing what<br>
> people can do when they get past the friction and propensity to<br>
> misconstrue<br>
> that comes with electronic communications.<br>
><br>
> So whatever might be done electronically, I suggest that people<br>
> consider<br>
> meet one another for coffee of a beer and just chat. Just<br>
> possibly that<br>
> chat might give rise to a solution to some hard problem. Or it<br>
> might create<br>
> an understanding that lets us step back from the tensions of<br>
> electronic<br>
> communications and say to ourselves - "I have met that<br>
> person, I know that he/she is intelligent and well intentioned.<br>
> Perhaps our disagreement arises out of misunderstanding one<br>
> another's words<br>
> rather than something of irreconcilable substance."<br>
><br>
> For example, any one of us could put up a flag - as a tweet or<br>
> an email or<br>
> facebook post - and say something like "Hey, folks, I'm happy to<br>
> meet with<br>
> anyone in the area for coffee or lunch, just drop me a note a<br>
> xxxx and let's<br>
> see if we can get together."<br>
><br>
> I realize that this is not a useful option for those of us who<br>
> are not in<br>
> population centers, on islands, or others who would find<br>
> informal, largely<br>
> unfocused, small meetings to be expensive or inconvenient. But<br>
> consider<br>
> that in our new era that we might look for several, overlapping,<br>
> sometimes<br>
> informal means of interaction rather than some single<br>
> all-encompassing<br>
> engine.<br>
><br>
> --karl--<br>
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