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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>@
Holly,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>+1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Otunte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Holly
Raiche<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 February 2017 20:34<br>
<b>To:</b> at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ICANN At-Large Staff<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [At-Large] R: R: Unsubscribe me please<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Folks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>A great discussion on this list - making some really
important points. So instead of letting the matter drop (as is so often
the case), make this an item for discussion at CPH - and allow plenty of time.
How do we communicate, can we do better and how. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So maybe review what some of us know - what are the lists,
how are they used (or not), when people unsubscribe, do we try to find out why,
is there a better way to communicate - by topic? And Dev, Garth, Seun and
everyone - could there be a page or so - to that list and staff, saying this is
a better way and this is how to do it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We are starting the Review comments - and how we communicate
(and how we could do it better) is clearly something that should be one of the
top items on that agenda. So let’s actually make our communications
structures better rather than just complain<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks everyone <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Holly<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 20 Feb 2017, at 4:57 am, Roberto Gaetano <<a
href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Oh good, then we can agree.</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>R</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Da:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><span lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=IT style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com"><span
style='color:purple'>gbruen@knujon.com</span></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com"><span
style='color:purple'>mailto:gbruen@knujon.com</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b>Inviato:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>domenica 19
febbraio 2017 18:55<br>
<b>A:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Roberto Gaetano<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Oggetto:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: R: [At-Large]
Unsubscribe me please</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT><<</span><span
class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>OTOH, your point is to replace email with something different, I
am strongly against.>><br>
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Hardly Roberto, I want people to have CHOICE and the system to be flexible.
Have a web interface that allows people to subscribe to the issue they are
concerned about and when they respond via email to a thread it is placed
somewhere useful within the interface so people who do NOT use the email list
can still interact with you. The overlay of a properly configured interface
would also allow people to use the system in a LOCAL language if they choose.<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
</span><span lang=IT><br>
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On 2/19/17 12:46 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Garth,</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am not arguing on the fact that there are other solutions,
what I reacted was to the idea of dropping the email.</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What is *<b>better</b>* or *<b>much better</b>* is really a
matter of different taste, connectivity conditions (bandwidth, cost, etc.), way
to use (always online or not), and more.</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What is good for some, is bad for other.</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If your point is that ICANN should explore alternatives and add
them to the offer they give to the stakeholders, I am with you.</span><span
lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If, OTOH, your point is to replace email with something different,
I am strongly against.</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Roberto</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt'>Da:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><span lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></span><span
lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com"><span
style='color:purple'>gbruen@knujon.com</span></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com"><span
style='color:purple'>mailto:gbruen@knujon.com</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b>Inviato:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>domenica 19
febbraio 2017 18:24<br>
<b>A:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Roberto Gaetano<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Oggetto:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [At-Large]
Unsubscribe me please</span><span lang=IT><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>Roberto,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<br>
There is a much better way. Web technology has evolved considerably, It is
entirely possible to have a single interface where all At-Large participants
can review current issues and collaborate in queues and streams. Instead of
cobbling together a bunch of disparate systems for placing and tracking
At-Large work, can we put all the tools in one place like every other effective
organization has done. We're not using anything even close to workflow, none of
the At-Large "Stuff" is results or goal driven. Log into this for
that, log into this other thing for something else. This is a case study in
driving our work into the ground.<br>
<br>
-Garth<br>
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On 2/19/17 11:35 AM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>To me, it works well - or at least better than
some alternatives.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>But maybe there other ways that I don't know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>Anyway, please do not unsubscribe me :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>R<br>
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Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 19 Feb 2017, at 17:13, "<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com"><span
style='color:purple'>gbruen@knujon.com</span></a>" <<a
href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com"><span style='color:purple'>gbruen@knujon.com</span></a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>Seun, there are always too many emails, none
channeled to specific interests or needs. This decades-old "system"
of collaboration and information flow is one of the great failures of ICANN to
engage with the community. Why would anyone want to stay engaged?<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
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On 2/19/17 10:46 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>The URL to unsubscribe is in the footer:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>On that note, I wonder why a few people are
unsubscribing? Are the mails too much already ;-)<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>On Feb 19, 2017 16:38, "Alexander
Forsyth" <<a href="mailto:aforsyth.pdp@gmail.com"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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_______________________________________________<br>
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<a href="mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</span></a><br>
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target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large</span></a><br>
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<pre><span lang=IT>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=IT>At-Large mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=IT><a
href="mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=IT><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large"><span
style='color:purple'>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=IT> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=IT>At-Large Official Site: <a
href="http://atlarge.icann.org/"><span style='color:purple'>http://atlarge.icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote>
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<pre><span lang=IT>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=IT>Garth Bruen<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=IT><a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com"><span style='color:purple'>gbruen@knujon.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
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