<div dir="ltr">I agree which is how ICANN stats are set up. If members don&#39;t engage then it is At-Large&#39;s problem to fix - as long as we don&#39;t ask for funds for outreach :) . </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 7:56 AM, <a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com">gbruen@knujon.com</a> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com" target="_blank">gbruen@knujon.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div class="m_-5319676627383586923moz-cite-prefix">Maureen I don&#39;t believe any of this is
      set up engage, it is set up so ICANN can say they are engaging. <br><div><div class="h5">
      <br>
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      On 2/19/17 12:44 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Garth
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        <div>Great to have you back BTW. I think it is primarily
          At-Large because we don&#39;t analyse our systems often enough to
          find out how many of our members are actually engaging at any
          time or at any level. I wouldn&#39;t even know what our membership
          is. Current stats only look at those engaging, not those who
          aren&#39;t. Is that an ICANN staff responsibility?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 7:36 AM, <a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com" target="_blank">gbruen@knujon.com</a>
          <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com" target="_blank">gbruen@knujon.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
              <div class="m_-5319676627383586923m_5608222664954569429moz-cite-prefix">So then
                Javier, Maureen, et al: Are we in the basement of modern
                communication because it is ICANN or because we are
                At-Large?
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                    On 2/19/17 12:29 PM, Javier Rua wrote:<br>
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                    <div>That would be awesome.<br>
                      <br>
                      Javier Rúa-Jovet
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                        <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a href="tel:%28787%29%20396-6511" value="+17873966511" target="_blank">+1-787-396-6511</a></span></div>
                        <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">twitter:
                            @javrua</span></div>
                        <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">skype:
                            javier.rua1</span></div>
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                      On Feb 19, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Maureen Hilyard &lt;<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">+1</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 19, 2017
                            at 7:23 AM, <a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com" target="_blank">gbruen@knujon.com</a> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com" target="_blank">gbruen@knujon.com</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                <div class="m_-5319676627383586923m_5608222664954569429m_439289899458854643moz-cite-prefix">Roberto,
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  There is a much better way. Web
                                  technology has evolved considerably,
                                  It is entirely possible to have a
                                  single interface where all At-Large
                                  participants can review current issues
                                  and collaborate in queues and streams.
                                  Instead of cobbling together a bunch
                                  of disparate systems for placing and
                                  tracking At-Large work, can we put all
                                  the tools in one place like every
                                  other effective organization has done.
                                  We&#39;re not using anything even close to
                                  workflow, none of the At-Large &quot;Stuff&quot;
                                  is results or goal driven. Log into
                                  this for that, log into this other
                                  thing for something else. This is a
                                  case study in driving our work into
                                  the ground.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  -Garth
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                                      On 2/19/17 11:35 AM, Roberto
                                      Gaetano wrote:<br>
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                                      <div>To me, it works well - or at
                                        least better than some
                                        alternatives.</div>
                                      <div id="m_-5319676627383586923m_5608222664954569429m_439289899458854643AppleMailSignature">But
                                        maybe there other ways that I
                                        don&#39;t know.</div>
                                      <div id="m_-5319676627383586923m_5608222664954569429m_439289899458854643AppleMailSignature">Anyway,
                                        please do not unsubscribe me :)</div>
                                      <div id="m_-5319676627383586923m_5608222664954569429m_439289899458854643AppleMailSignature">R<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Sent from my iPad</div>
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                                        On 19 Feb 2017, at 17:13, &quot;<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com" target="_blank">gbruen@knujon.com</a>&quot;
                                        &lt;<a href="mailto:gbruen@knujon.com" target="_blank">gbruen@knujon.com</a>&gt;
                                        wrote:<br>
                                        <br>
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                                          <div class="m_-5319676627383586923m_5608222664954569429m_439289899458854643moz-cite-prefix">Seun,
                                            there are always too many
                                            emails, none channeled to
                                            specific interests or needs.
                                            This decades-old &quot;system&quot; of
                                            collaboration and
                                            information flow is one of
                                            the great failures of ICANN
                                            to engage with the
                                            community. Why would anyone
                                            want to stay engaged? <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            On 2/19/17 10:46 AM, Seun
                                            Ojedeji wrote:<br>
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                                            <div dir="auto">Hello,
                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div dir="auto">The URL to
                                                unsubscribe is in the
                                                footer:</div>
                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div dir="auto"><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.or<wbr>g/mailman/listinfo/at-large</a></div>
                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div dir="auto">On that
                                                note, I wonder why a few
                                                people are
                                                unsubscribing? Are the
                                                mails too much already
                                                ;-)<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Regards<br>
                                                <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from
                                                  my LG G4<br>
                                                  Kindly excuse brevity
                                                  and typos</div>
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                                            </div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Feb 19, 2017 16:38,
                                                &quot;Alexander Forsyth&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aforsyth.pdp@gmail.com" target="_blank">aforsyth.pdp@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                                  <div dir="ltr">Thank
                                                    you.
                                                    <div><br clear="all">
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Alexander
                                                          Forsyth
                                                          <div><a href="https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/d0c0b46552958ac65c076711d0d4ddd3caa71b4e?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.campominado.org&amp;signature=ae7e770fe5d7250e" target="_blank">www.campominado.org</a></div>
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