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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alx,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe I need to add a few words.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have also met Andrea, and have a very good opinion of him.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">He, being Italian like me, would have understood that I meant to be funny not offending – I even put a smiley to reinforce the nature of my post.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But point taken, I shall be more careful in making statements that can be interpreted in ways that were unintended.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for pointing out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">Da:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif""> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch [mailto:apisan@unam.mx]
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<b>Inviato:</b> venerdì 16 settembre 2016 01:19<br>
<b>A:</b> Roberto Gaetano; bzs@theworld.com; Evan Leibovitch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ICANN At-Large list<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> RE: [At-Large] R: On techies versus politicians<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Andrea Glorioso is an accessible, informed guy who means nothing but well, and is easily misinterpreted esp. on grounds of a single statement. Many of us have had good
interactions with him, on subjects of ICANN and Internet governance more generally, over many years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Using the At Large space for lynching him in absentia when the discussion can be held frontally with him in the place where he published his opinion is a low point (unfortunately
not the lowest, and the set is large.) To say the least, it is unbecoming.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Yours,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Desde:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Roberto Gaetano [roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 15 de septiembre de 2016 16:24<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> <a href="mailto:bzs@theworld.com">bzs@theworld.com</a>; Evan Leibovitch<br>
<b>CC:</b> ICANN At-Large list<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> [At-Large] R: On techies versus politicians</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Let me disagree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I believe that Glorioso's statement is insulting for politicians, not for techies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">He asserts basically that politicians do not pick what factually would be the best solution, because they are sidetracked by sentiments
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">(actually, my opinion is that they are sidetracked by their own hidden agendas)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> -----Messaggio originale-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Da:
<a href="mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [mailto:at-large-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] Per conto di
<a href="mailto:bzs@theworld.com">bzs@theworld.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Inviato: giovedì 15 settembre 2016 20:04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> A: Evan Leibovitch<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] On techies versus politicians<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> On September 15, 2016 at 13:30
<a href="mailto:evan@telly.org" target="_blank">evan@telly.org</a> (Evan Leibovitch) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > From a Facebook post by Andrea Glorioso (unedited):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > The problem with engineer-like folks trying to do politics is that most of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > them don't understand that emotions are often more powerful than<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> facts, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > that they are simply not as relevant for the the person they are debating<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > with, or as powerful in the grand scheme of things, as they think.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > If I had a dime for every "techie" who won the battle of showing he<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> knew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > more than his counterpart, just to lose the war of actually getting the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > long-term result s/he wanted, I'd be reasonably well-off (some techies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> > understand politics - some.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> This borders on offensive and self-aggrandizing stereotyping.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> One doesn't have to spend a lot of time at ICANN meetings etc to pick up on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> the anti-old-guard/techie sentiments by the non-techie policy wonks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> lawyers, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> It's not shocking they find people who might actually understand how a lot of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> this works threatening and want to minimize their participation. At any<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> meeting or forum they may get publicly humbled in a sentence or two<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> amounting to "that's impossible, it doesn't even work that way, not at all".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> They don't get that scrutiny from their fellow non-technical wonks who tend<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> to agree that making PI exactly 3 would be easier to remember (who could<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> argue? common sense!), do we have a second? All in favor?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> When someone dismisses the competence of a group with as broad a term<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> as "engineer-like" that person should be shut down.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> The world is changing around them, fast. The technical tide is rising and any<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> it away by discrediting those who do understand it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Increasingly we live in a world where:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 1. Business and trade live on blockchains and increasingly "automatic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> contracts" and all that implies. And often implemented by neural nets.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 2. Technology has democratized and globalized crime and espionage to such<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> an extent that we rely on technology not policy to combat it. No one<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> disagrees that crimes are involved, or only rarely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> I follow it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 4. Issues such as "net neutrality" get so tangled in the technical realities of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> what that means that most policy makers speak utter nonsense about it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> trying desparately to make it fit into their mental models.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> that beyond mouthing a few audience-pleasing platitudes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 6. Nation-state censorship and cyber-oppression can be enabled or thwarted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> not only by policy which often no one has much say over but a myriad of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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