<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks for sharing this Kaili. The structure of the ISC is not new to me, seeing it was already explained by our colleague and friend Hong Xue time before now. What it means to be multistakeholder and the way it is operationalized around the globe remains ever interesting......and controversial. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">In my part of the world any participation with governments in an organisation is suspect and according to some of our doorkeepers who interpret the ICANN vision of stakeholderism, inherently not multi-stakeholder. Some have even gone as far to say if an individual is a public employee or a business owner, then that individual is compromised and cannot represent end user interests.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have always found that view not only illiberal but the thinking hopelessly backward. For depending on the time of day and activity, I myself can be an academic, a small business owner, an adviser to governments, a civil society advocate and all round skeptic.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I live. And the more I learn, the more I doubt.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">-Carlton</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><br>==============================<br>Carlton A Samuels<br>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i><br>=============================</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:45 AM, Kan Kaili <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kankaili@gmail.com" target="_blank">kankaili@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Hi,</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Sorry for replying late, for I just got back from
extensive traveling and starting to sort out my emails.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Regarding setting up a national multi-stake holder
structure, I agree that it depends on the circumstances.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Take China's Internet Society of China (ISC), it is
indeed a multi-stakeholder structure. It is composed by Internet
corporations, including gaint ones like Tencent and Alibaba as well as those
with only a few employees, and scholars of the Internet field to represent
consumers' interest. It also receives backing of the China Ministry of
Industries and Information Technology (MIIT), although none of its funding is
provided by the government. So far, ISC is the largest and maybe only
organization representing China's huge Internet involvement, both domistically
and internationally.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">The reason that ISC was built into a multi-stakeholder
organization is not only because all organizations must be registered with the
government and face extensive scrutinies in order to become legal.
Furthermore, as the government puts everything under control, there is
absolutely no way to sue government policies in court. It is also next to
impossible for consumers to sue Internet corporations, especially large
ones, for mis-treatments. Instead, ISC plays the role of
mediating among the consumers, the industry and the government. In this
regard, scholars play an important role. They not only represent
consumers' interest, but also advise the government on improving policies,
advise corporations on better business practices, as well as guide consumers on
their expectations. For these reasons, ISC is well recognized thruout the
country in about all issues in relation to the Internet, especially when
consumers' interest is involved.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Early this year ISC was approved to become an ALS of
the At-Large community. This is because, the spirit of Al-Large being
composed by consumers is to protect their interest and to present their
voices. However, in the China environment, nobody else but ISC plays that
role and does it effectively. Thus, being multi-stakeholder is one of
ISC's greatest advantage instead of a defect.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Hope that this info could be of some help to you and
others.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Best regards,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="宋体">Kaili</font></div><span class="">
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<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" target="_blank">Roberto Gaetano</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体"><b>To:</b> <a title="at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>
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<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:13 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:9pt 宋体"><b>Subject:</b> [At-Large] IGF Germany</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi all.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have sent a specific message on this
subject to the EURALO list, but I am realizing that what I am looking for is
not limited to Europe, so I am replicating this to the global
list.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am particularly interested in efforts to
establish multi-stakeholder structures at the national
level.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I understand that in Germany there is an
ongoing effort to build this type of initiative.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Is this correct? How can I get more
information?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Generally speaking, would it be a good
idea to share the information that we have from different
countries?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Maybe there are some ALSes that work
locally on this subject, and it would be good to know more about
it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Roberto<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">PS: I know that our Armenian ALSes are
active on this, and I am already in contact with them
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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