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<div>in many countries it is desirable to postpone the urge to "establish multi-stakeholder structures at the national level." They may create capture targets with no benefit in exchange if done prematurely.</div>
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<div>That is the case in several Latin American countries where we have loosely organized working groups, and meetings we have chosen to call "Dialogues on Internet Governance", avoiding any premature crystallization and even the word "Forum." To the best of
my understanding we started this trend in Mexico and it has had echo in Argentina.</div>
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<div>Fadi Chehade for a time tried to convince many, especially in governments, to emulate Brazil's CGI. The model may work well in Brazil, due to local circumstances and history (Vanda will tell us more - it was started by her in a visionary way in the Cardoso
government period) but other countries have very different circumstances.</div>
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<div>In particular if many of the IG problems are being solved by relevant stakeholders on a heuristic basis, the more commprehensive structure may actually cause a wreck. Among other reasons: attempts to capture (by government or others), a scramble for budget
and seats, lack of balance, lack of access to the actually relevant actors - briefly, an example: an ISP may or an NGO may need to send very different representatives to a meeting on spma than to a meeting on "right to be forgotten."</div>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> domingo, 15 de mayo de 2016 11:15<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>CC:</b> At-Large Worldwide<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> [At-Large] R: IGF Germany<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Thanks, Seun, this is an excellent start, I will also have a look at the 2015 reports.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I would also be interested in whether some analysis has been made to compare the local initiatives – I am sure that every country approaches
this issue in a different way.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Roberto</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">Da:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif""> Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com]
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<b>Inviato:</b> domenica 15 maggio 2016 17:27<br>
<b>A:</b> Roberto Gaetano<br>
<b>Cc:</b> At-Large Worldwide<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [At-Large] IGF Germany</span></p>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>The URL below has references to national and regional IGFs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/77-igf-regional-events/igf-regional-and-national/3026-list-of-national-and-regional-igf-initiatives-2016" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/77-igf-regional-events/igf-regional-and-national/3026-list-of-national-and-regional-igf-initiatives-2016</a></p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 May 2016 4:14 p.m., "Roberto Gaetano" <<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">Hi all.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">I have sent a specific message on this subject to the EURALO list, but I am realizing that what I am looking for is not limited to Europe, so I am replicating this to the global list.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">I am particularly interested in efforts to establish multi-stakeholder structures at the national level.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">I understand that in Germany there is an ongoing effort to build this type of initiative.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">Is this correct? How can I get more information?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">Generally speaking, would it be a good idea to share the information that we have from different countries?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">Maybe there are some ALSes that work locally on this subject, and it would be good to know more about it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">Roberto</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span lang="EN-US">PS: I know that our Armenian ALSes are active on this, and I am already in contact with them
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