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    Some years ago I made a presentation to a local community planning
    board about the .nyc TLD, concluding with a request that the board
    approve a resolution recommending that the city move ahead with an
    acquisition process.<br>
    <br>
    One the board members commented, "We can't vote on this until we
    hear what the Borough President wants us to do." Now the purpose of
    the community boards was to provide the Borough President, City
    Council, and Mayor with bottom-up guidance on those things of
    interest - or not - to local residents. That was their role. That's
    why the boards existed. <br>
    <br>
    If we look closely into the root governance question, and after due
    consideration the At-Large decides that some newfangled treaty
    organization should be created, and the recommendation is rejected,
    or ignored, or even scoffed at, by the majority, we'll have
    fulfilled our duty. Alternately, the At-Large might conclude that
    it's not an appropriate approach. Or it might succeed.<br>
    <br>
    That said, I realize that after the Herculean task of dealing with
    the IANA  question there might be reluctance to take on another.
    Especially one that seems, at first look, to be quite challenging .
    But I think we should give a hard look at the merits and then decide
    if we should take it on. Let's not make our decisions based on
    likelihood of success.  <br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    <br>
    Tom Lowenhaupt<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/9/2016 5:52 PM, Alan Greenberg
      wrote:<br>
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      So, as I understand things, we want to convince the governments of
      the
      world to enter into a new treaty where there does not seem to be a
      huge
      amount of current interest. But not a regular treaty, but one in
      which
      governments sign onto it, but cede much of their power to civil
      society,
      academics, the technical community and business. Oh yes, and End
      Users, a
      rather undefined term in their context.<br>
      <br>
      I'm really good at putting large efforts into difficult projects,
      because
      there is merit in their success, but this one sounds just a bit
      (ok, a
      lot) too "iffy" for my comfort.<br>
      <br>
      Alan<br>
      <br>
      At 09/04/2016 04:18 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:<br>
      <blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Olivier, <br>
        <br>
        I got from Thomas's email that he proposes that we go outside of
        current
        norms and create a multistakeholder treaty model that
        incorporates all
        our stakeholder groups. Of course it doesn't exist now but we
        are in a
        transition phase so perhaps its timely.<br>
        <br>
        Maureen<br>
        <br>
        On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
        <dl>
          <dd>Dear Thomas,<br>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>On 09/04/2016 20:51, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote:<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>&gt;<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>&gt; Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't Parminder's
            thought<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>&gt; bottom-up, and in-line with the multi-stakeholder
            concept? (And
            I see<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>&gt; some merit in his concerns about gTLD governance.)<br>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>The Treaty Model which Parminder argues for requires
            signature from
            UN<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Member States.<br>
          </dd>
          <dd><a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.un.org/en/member-states/">
              http://www.un.org/en/member-states/</a><br>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Where is Civil Society?<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Where are End Users?<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Where are the Technical &amp; Academic Communities?<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Where is the Private Sector?<br>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Kindest regards,<br>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Olivier<br>
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