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Roberto,<br>
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I'm a grassroots guy trying to find a way for the Net to address the
needs of my neighborhood. And a lot of this global stuff goes over
my head. But if the GAC were to move ahead on a treaty, I suspect
many of us would say "Hey! This is supposed to be a bottom up
process. The governments pushing a treaty, no way, top-down, boo." <br>
<br>
Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't Parminder's thought
bottom-up, and in-line with the multi-stakeholder concept? (And I
see some merit in his concerns about gTLD governance.) <br>
<br>
But I'm not in love with the idea of a traditional treaty
organization. Perhaps we could address the issues raised in a
creative manner, break with tradition and fashion a
multi-stakeholder treaty. For a start, perhaps we could present the
states with an outline of what the At-Large sees as a suitable
outcome, solicit their thoughts, while suggesting that the solution
should include a continuing role for the At-Large. And see what they
draft.<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
Tom Lowenhaupt<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/9/2016 10:34 AM, Roberto Gaetano
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Parminder:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Unlike what many think, and Roberto Gaetano has
argued, a treaty does not necessarily mean inter-gov
mechanism for a body's functioning, I am asking for a treaty
that simply establishes international law that allows ICANN
to stay and function exactly as it does at present....</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">It was my intention not to further comment to
this thread, that is bringing us nowhere, because we
disagree, and are both unable to convince the other party.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">So, we are all losing time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">However, since you call me directly in your
message, I will provide a *<b>last</b>* reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Treaties are done by governments, not civil
society. We are the internet user community, governments are
in the GAC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">If you believe it is an easy thing to do,
please go ahead and do it. As I told you already, go and
convince governments, and come back with something we can
work on that is not just fluff – or ether.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Since you are insisting in not doing that, I
matured the convincement that you are well aware that what
you propose will not be supported by governments, and you
are just playing politics: words, that go nowhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Actually, did you propose this to the GAC,
which would be the appropriate forum? If yes, what was the
answer? If no, why not?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">If I see a meaningful draft, endorsed by a
substantial number of governments, I will apologize to you
and collaborate. Until I do not see this, I will remain of
my opinion, that you are proposing something that is
unfeasible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Roberto<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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