<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>Much of the icann learn is outdated also.  Many of the references for the courses are outdated as well. And the email for jeff dunn says his icann account no longer exists, he is the person to email to request a course.  I emailed to ask about jeff dunn not having an account days ago, no response.  But each time i sign up for a course, jeff dunn emails me and says i registered for a course, bizarre in my opinion.<br /><br />Ron<br /><br /></div></td></tr></table>            <div id="_origMsg_">
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                            Maureen Hilyard &lt;maureen.hilyard@gmail.com&gt;;                            <br>
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                            Alan Greenberg &lt;alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca&gt;;                                                     <br>
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                            Re: [At-Large] [ALAC-Announce] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS: 2016 ALAC Leadership Team                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top"><p dir="ltr">The confusion of trying to locate the most up to date versions of key documents and workspace pages is a real problem on community.icann. The search engine can take you to totally irrelevant pages if you dont know the exact title of the page you want.</p>
<div class="yqt4709448513" id="yqt46083"><div class="gmail_quote">On 11/10/2015 11:14 am, &quot;Alan Greenberg&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Seun, <br clear="none"><br clear="none">
The PDF pointed by your first link is the current Rules of Procedure
(RoP) and the one that was quoted in earlier messages. A simpler URL for
the current RoP is
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04">
http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04</a>.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
It is pointed to by
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure">
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure</a> which
also includes the various other documents that are pointed to by the
RoP.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
Your second link is to a wiki workspace (mobile version) for the group
that revised the RoP several years ago. Near the top are two links that
are equivalent to the two links above. The rest of that workspace had
many links to the previous Rules Ror instance
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262614/AL-2007-1-1-Rev11%20ALAC%20Internal%20Rules%20of%20Procedure%20-%20EN%20.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1334600024000&api=v2">
<b>ALAC/2007/1/1.Rev11 - EN</b></a> points to the previous set of rules
as described by the text just above the link. Later in the page are
pointers to pages for individual sections that were used by the drafting
committee. This entire page is preserved to document the process and will
not be changed. The links at the top were added to make sure people could
find the current rules. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">
I will suggest that a warning be added so that people do not mistake the
old rules for the current set.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
At 10/10/2015 04:57 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<blockquote type="cite">Dear Chair/ALAC,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
I observed the PDF document at the url below is consistent with the
section quoted by Alan but not the text posted in the wiki.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
PDF:<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%2BRoP-06April2013.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1378914284000&api=v2">
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%2BRoP-06April2013.pdf?version=1&amp;modificationDate=1378914284000&amp;api=v2</a>
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
ALAC RoP on the wiki:<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://community.icann.org/m/mobile.action#page/2262614">
https://community.icann.org/m/mobile.action#page/2262614</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
I suggest that the 2 documents be reconciled.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
Regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
Sent from my Asus Zenfone2<br clear="none">
Kindly excuse brevity and typos.<br clear="none">
On 10 Oct 2015 21:23, &quot;Christopher Wilkinson&quot;
&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">
cw@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote type="cite">
<dl></dl><br clear="none"><br clear="none">

<dl><dd>Dear Alan:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Without wishing to disturb these otherwise calm waters, may I
enquire:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">

</dd><dd>-as I understand it, the ALAC Chair is eligible for a second
term.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>That does not necessarily mean that the &#39;reconduction&#39; is
automatic, unless there are no other candidates.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Normally, I would expect the staff also to call for nominations for
the Chair. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">

</dd><dd>-At Large is naturally aware that the current Chair is eligible and
willing to be elected for a second term<br clear="none"><br clear="none">

</dd><dd>-(I am not a candidate for any of the announced positions).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">

</dd><dd>However it is increasingly evident that ICANN needs a far more crisp,
informed and critical ALAC than we have experienced in recent years.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>There is a potential vacuum in the representation of civil society
and users&#39; interests: It is likely that GAC will abstain from voting
participation in the &#39;Member&#39;. Civil society participants in GNSO have
not reined in the contracted parties. Discussion in CCWG is moving
towards codifying how the SO and AC are accountable to the &#39;non-ICANN
community&#39;. <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>At Large should lead the way.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Best regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Christopher<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>On 10 Oct 2015, at 17:06, ICANN At-Large Staff
&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>
&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<blockquote type="cite">
</blockquote></dd><dd>Dear All,<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Please see below the call for nominations for members of the 2016
ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) sent on behalf of Alan Greenberg, Chair of the
ALAC.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>===========================================<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>ALAC LEADERSHIP TEAM<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Now that it is confirmed that the ALAC Chair, Alan Greenberg, will
continue for another term, he has requested that a call for nominations
be issued for the other four members of the ALAC Leadership team (ALT)
from the four remaining regions:<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>- Africa<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>- Asia, Australasia and Pacific Islands<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>- Europe<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>- Latin America and Caribbean Islands<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>The ALAC Rules of Procedure call for up to two Vice-Chairs, at the
discretion of the incoming ALAC Chair, and Alan has indicated that he
would prefer two Vice-Chairs as was the case during the past year.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Nominations are now open for individuals to serve as the two
Vice-Chairs of the ALAC and the two non-titled ALT positions. 
Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be
an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations, but must have an
expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming
Dublin ICANN Meeting.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Requirements for ALT members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC
Rules of Procedure
(<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04">
http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04</a>).<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Nominations will close on Saturday,  17 October 2015 at 23:59
UTC.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Nominations need not be seconded, but it is an ALAC tradition that
others may second the nomination as a show of agreement with the
nomination.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Nominations other than self-nominations must be accepted within seven
days after the close of nominations. Acceptance should be sent to the
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">
mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>&gt;.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Nominees without access to that list should send their acceptance to
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">
mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>&gt;.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Staff will forward all acceptances to
ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.rog&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.rog" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">
mailto:ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.rog</a>&gt;.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Following the close of the nominations period and the acceptance or
rejection of all nominations, candidates from regions where the position
is not contested will be declared to  have won by acclamation.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in
conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the
situation. Failing that, an secret vote of the ALAC will decide the
winner.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>If the resultant ALT includes two members nominated to be
Vice-Chairs, those two will serve in those positions. If there are less
than two or more than two nominated as Vice-Chairs, the ALAC Chair will
decide who will occupy the Vice-Chair positions.<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Regards,<br clear="none">

</dd><dd> <br clear="none">

</dd><dd>Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
Peregrine and Terri Agnew<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC<br clear="none">

</dd><dd>E-mail:
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