[At-Large] ICANN75: Selecting Malaysia and inclusiveness

Mon Aug 1 22:56:39 UTC 2022

Count me as advocating for the use of more virtual and fewer F2F meetings.

IMO ICANN should have no more than one global F2F for its annual meeting
and Nothing Else. All other global meetings should be virtual (with a few
exceptions, see below).

NOTE: I am not advocating for the use of endless Zoom. That is amateur
hour, if ICANN were serious about doing most of its meetings virtually
there are better vendors to service this need.

The visa issue is just one of many reasons to prefer virtual F2F for ICANN
meetings:

   - Transcription and real-time interpretation can be automated (and
   sub-titles become an option)
   - Less opportunity for backroom/hallway off-the-record arm-twisting (it
   won't be eliminated, but it won't be encouraged either)
   - Far less expense, allowing ALAC to concentrate funds on R&D and
   education
   - Less need for ALAC's consistent begging to be humanely treated in
   travel
   - Better access -- in a system *designed* for remote participation,
   remote participants are not second-class compared to in-person
   - People still need to designate time off for ICANN meetings, but at
   least two days LESS time is needed for travel
   - Less "this is blahblahblah for the transcript record" time-wasting BS
   since the meeting recording already shows who's talking
   - Easier for the meeting Chair to mute (or kick!) unruly participants
   - In-meeting polls and votes are easy to do

As one of the lesser-powered groups within ICANN, it's in ALAC's interest
to have virtual meetings as they level the playing field compared to F2F,
even if just a bit. Those on expense accounts, those accepting ICANN's
travel charity and those paying their own way all access the meetings the
same way. It's the best solution to real inclusion.

I suggest doing regional and constituency meetings (like RALO assemblies)
occasionally by F2F, but going virtual for the global meetings has been a
net plus to us politically. That we have not exploited that reduced
disadvantage is a different issue.

- Evan

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 3:03 AM Hank Nussbacher via At-Large <
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:

> On 22/07/2022 20:35, Roberto Gaetano via At-Large wrote:
>
> I think you should all be grateful that you can attend ICANN 75.  To
> quote from:
> https://www.icann.org/diversity-en
> "To live up to this responsibility, ICANN is committed to promoting
> greater diversity and supporting broad, inclusive participation in its
> processes."
>
> The upcoming ICANN 75 meeting takes place in Kuala Lumpur .  Quoting
> from the Wikipedia page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Malaysia_relations
> "Malaysian passports bear the inscription: "This passport is valid for
> all countries except Israel". Israeli passport holders are forbidden to
> enter Malaysia without written permission from the Malaysian Ministry of
> Home Affairs."
>
> One can of course claim that travel restrictions have been eased
> recently as per:
> https://visalist.io/malaysia/visa-requirements/israel
> which requires 9 documents and an appearance at the Malaysian embassy -
> closest of which is in Jordan.
>
> How does ICANN live up to its commitment to "inclusiveness" if it
> selects a country that forbids the participation of Israel (or makes it
> close to impossible to get a visa)?
>
> Regards,
> Hank Nussbacher
>
> Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not express
> the views or opinions of my employer
>
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > Not radical, but with some imaginative clauses that sound weird to the
> > ears of somebody that is not a lawyer and does not live in a country
> > that is particularly inclined to solve matters in courts.
> >
> > Here is an example that, if taken seriously, would oblige me to ask
> > some questions:
> >
> >     /This Liability Waiver and Release is specifically binding upon my
> >     heirs and assigns and is knowingly given./
> >
> >
> > Do I need to ask my (hopefully future) heirs to also sign the waiver?
> > And if they don’t want, or even produce an official document, signed
> > in the hands of a notary or other official authority, that they
> > specifically do not acknowledge the obligation of being obliged to
> > comply with this clause - maybe saying that they formally recommended
> > that I take this trip, what would happen? How can ICANN enforce this
> > clause in my jurisdiction - actually, in the jurisdiction of my heirs
> > - in front of a formal statement of them prior to the fact? And if I
> > attach this document of my heirs to my application, what would ICANN
> > do? Reject my registration because one of the clauses of the waiver is
> > not enforceable?
> >
> > This is one more reason for loving the ICANN community, never a dull
> > moment and a lot of fun :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roberto
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 22.07.2022, at 18:18, Bill Jouris via At-Large
> >> <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> As such things go, this isn't a particularly radical waiver.  A bit
> >> wordier than average, but nothing novel in substance.
> >>
> >> Bill Jouris
> >>
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> >>
> >>     On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 8:20 AM, Marita Moll via At-Large
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