[At-Large] Ukraine, .RU, and internet governance

Mon Mar 14 14:44:10 UTC 2022

Hi everybody.

As I see one of our goals is to increase our potential and our ranks with
individual members and ALSs, who have significantly thinned and become even
more silent during the pandemic time.
Now this catastrophe (I can't find any other words,  there is a huge pain
inside only) apart from all the horrors creates a precedent of isolation
and exclusion from the agenda of the active core of representatives of
Russia (organizations and individuals).

I think it is necessary to clarify for ourselves - is At-Large a right
place for such initiatives and for this fight against the part of the
community? Do we remember that At-Large unites people from all over the
world by common work to present and protect the end users interests and
maybe not the right place for such discussions? +1 to Maureen, Tijani, Alan
Levin and others respected friends and colleagues.
Put other nations and countries in the place of the words "Russian" or
"Russia" in your emails mentally. Do you think it is possible to phase out
other nations and countries from the agenda and the Internet landscape? Or
is it a target case?

Separately, I would like to note that respected members of the discussion
who advocate the exclusion of the .RU from the register of TLD and the
exclusion of Russians from Internet interaction act in exceptional harmony
with those against whom they are fighting here.

It looks to me in the near future (not now) we should care  for our further
abilities to work together within the framework of the At-Large (members,
ALSes, partners). Officially we don't see any problems. To be honest we are
not sure and we`ll definitely see it definitely.

I would like to initiate this dialogue or at least the intentions. We
probably should have proper communication inside and outside the ICANN
community. Maybe At-Large becomes the an absolutely unique where people
with different cultural and mental codes are united in work, interaction
and friendship and stop xenophobia, racism, extremism. Maybe it will be the
only one space like this.

Via this email I bring the most sincere compassion to our members and
people from Ukraine and other countries who are affected.

Please take care of yourself.

Sincerely,
Natalia Filina

Secretary of EURALO
https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo

+7 906 722 54 61
Moscow, Russian Federation

пн, 14 мар. 2022 г. в 16:54, Amrita Choudhury via At-Large <
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>:

> +1 Tijani and completely agree with Maureen’s statement.
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> Regards,
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> Amrita
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> *From:* At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> *On Behalf Of
> *Tijani BEN JEMAA via At-Large
> *Sent:* 14 March 2022 14:03
> *To:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] Ukraine, .RU, and internet governance
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> Thank you Maureen for your clear message. You are speaking for the ICANN
> At-Large community and I’m one of them.
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> Best
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> Le 14 mars 2022 à 12:26 AM, Maureen Hilyard via At-Large <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit :
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> Evan
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> The majority of our At-Large members continue to stand by our remit, and
> support the ISOC and ICANN calls to minimise any risk to the continued use
> of the internet by Internet end-users universally regardless of the
> politics of their countries. This is not "doing nothing".
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> Maureen
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> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, 1:04 pm Evan Leibovitch via At-Large, <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
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> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 2:12 PM Antony Van Couvering via At-Large <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
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> It’s appears that there is no appetite within this community to block .ru,
> or to do something substantive to help Ukraine in its hour of need, or even
> to say something about it. Finally, something that unites a normally
> fractious group.
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> It's worse than that. ICANN won't even take the very minor diplomatic
> steps taken globally in every other sector that, while not cutting .RU out
> of the root, would still help to enforce an isolation that in aggregate may
> help bring the country to change its path. ICANN could deny registration of
> Russian nationals to ICANN meetings or participation in ongoing policy
> activities, or even take the miniscule step of refusing to subsidize their
> travel. Hell, it still won't take action on the rogue .SU domain after all
> these years. And ALAC is quite fine with such inaction, it's had plenty of
> time to consider options to support community isolation while still keeping
> the data flowing.
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> But here, in the mindset of all or nothing, both ICANN and ALAC have
> actively chosen nothing. Pathetic.
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> Of course there is one more scenario that nobody here will like. As I like
> to remind people, there is no international treaty governing ICANN and the
> IANA "transition" was bullshit, so ICANN remains subject to US (and as we
> saw in the case of .ORG, California) authority. It would not surprise me at
> all if forcing ICANN to cut off Russia remains a back-pocket option of the
> US State Department as an enhanced sanction (now that they've already cut
> off Russian caviar). ICANN's refusal to do ANYTHING only encourages and
> legitimizes such action, but its low external respect guarantees that
> nobody outside the bubble will fight for it.
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> - Evan
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