[At-Large] Fwd: Coping with active participation in At-Large during COVID-19

Ephraim Percy Kenyanito hello at ekenyanito.com
Sat May 9 19:36:08 UTC 2020


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Ephraim Percy Kenyanito

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On 5/9/20 9:14 PM, Sarah Kiden wrote:
> +1 Patricia
>
> Thank you,
>
> Sarah 
>
> On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 19:07, Patricia Akello <ekisesta at gmail.com
> <mailto:ekisesta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Glenn, 
>
>     I appreciate all your efforts and understand the concerns you have
>     raised regarding connectivity which is indeed a big challenge in
>     Africa. Now that the issue has been raised, our hope is that a
>     solution will be found real soon. 
>
>     Regards 
>     Esther Patricia Akello 
>
>     On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 19:06, Glenn McKnight
>     <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Patricia 
>         Lets make sure that  we understand that this is difficult
>         times and this special Emergency Fund is a band-aid and not a
>         solution .  My major  concern as I ranted about a few weeks
>         ago is the help to those  ATLARGE community members who need
>         assistance for  Internet connectivity so they can be connected
>         during the ICANN multiple meetings.   In my survey we found
>         significant  high prices and low bandwidth in Africa parts of
>         the far East.  Maybe many more locations.   ICANN has saved
>         alot of money not paying stipend, airfare, hotels and all the
>         associated costs of CANCUN,  KL and probably Hamburg and
>         perhaps  2021  and we are naive to think that we will not lose
>         folks. Our  multistakeholderism is at risk.  We need to be
>         proactive.   
>>         Glenn McKnight
>         ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021
>         mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>         Curator for  Internet Governance Hub Blog
>         www.internetgovernancehub.blog 
>         <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog>
>         http://toronto.ieee.ca/
>         IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair 
>         glenn.mcknight at ieee.org <mailto:glenn.mcknight at ieee.org>
>         skype  gmcknight
>         twitter @Inkmedia
>         289-830 6259
>         .
>
>
>         On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 10:23 AM Patricia Akello
>         <ekisesta at gmail.com <mailto:ekisesta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Thanks Glenn, 
>             Barack - Say no more! Am in total agreement With you. It’s
>             a demonstration of good leadership and acts like this are
>             a demonstration of the “Ubuntu” spirit - I am because we are.
>
>             It’s a tough situation but many thanks to all who have
>             contributed and supported a brother. 
>
>             Regards 
>             Esther Patricia Akello 
>
>
>
>             On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 16:49, Glenn McKnight
>             <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>             <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 For the record  the funds  are not from ICANN 
>                 G
>                 Glenn McKnight
>                 ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021
>                 mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>                 Curator for  Internet Governance Hub Blog
>                 www.internetgovernancehub.blog 
>                 <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog>
>                 http://toronto.ieee.ca/
>                 IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair 
>                 glenn.mcknight at ieee.org <mailto:glenn.mcknight at ieee.org>
>                 skype  gmcknight
>                 twitter @Inkmedia
>                 289-830 6259
>                 .
>
>
>                 On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 9:46 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO
>                 OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
>                 <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote:
>
>                     Dear Barrack,
>                     Just so that I am clear. I TOTALLY agree with the
>                     point you made about relationships and having
>                     concern for others. I have NO problem with this at
>                     all. Relationships should transcend borders as you
>                     mentioned. I totally agree with where she is
>                     coming from and share that view too. Please
>                     don't get me wrong. I agree with helping. I would
>                     also do there same however if I head a
>                     company/government and in the name of helping a
>                     friend I give out money from the public purse to
>                     help a friend in distress then no one should pity
>                     me when it is time to go to jail. Do you think
>                     anyone in charge of ICANN's finances would at any
>                     point in time be able to justify helping someone
>                     stranded in another country on a non-ICANN
>                     business?.  I am not saying don't help am saying
>                     you can't push it to ICANN
>                      
>                     Let me list where I disagree so that I am very clear
>
>                     1. Daniel's Name should not have been mentioned in
>                     the email to Leon. Iit could have been a generic
>                     thing just as Glenn did in his mail. I believe his
>                     privacy has been compromised. We all now know who
>                     is stranded and where. 
>                     2. It shouldn't have been used as an example to
>                     convince the board cos clearly it would make them
>                     take an easy decision because I can't see how you
>                     can convince your company to pay the hotel bills
>                     for a friend who came on a private visit when you
>                     are not running a charity.  The main issue should
>                     be about the general challenges, not individual
>                     challenges that way an individual can benefit.
>                     3.  It should not appear as the new priority. The
>                     priority should be the concerns the community has
>                     been rasing that never got to the next level.
>                     I hope you understand my point.  
>
>                     AK
>
>                     On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:02 PM Barrack Otieno
>                     <otieno.barrack at gmail.com
>                     <mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                         Hi Abdulkarim,
>
>                         Permit me to weigh in on this matter. Having
>                         been involved in ICANN for a little over 10
>                         years now i have come to appreciate the role
>                         of relationships and genuine concern for each
>                         others well being. This is what has kept me
>                         and many others going in this ecosystem for
>                         many years and i beleive this is where Maureen
>                         is coming from. I literaly drop everything i
>                         am doing whenever a member of this community
>                         is in town due to the relationships we have
>                         established which transcend borders. As a
>                         leader, i would do the same when one of my
>                         team members is in dire straits. We all have
>                         an idea of the letter and the spirit of the
>                         law or by laws. Whichever school of thought
>                         you align yourself with has impacts on the
>                         output of your team or any organization you
>                         may be leading. The issues that have been
>                         raised are suggestions and should be treated
>                         as such. In my opinion Maureen is right as a
>                         leader to bring to the fore an issue a member
>                         of her leadership team is facing. Being a
>                         diverse community, Daniels help might just be
>                         an email away. If we can't help him then let
>                         the matter rest.
>
>                         On Sat, 9 May 2020, 3:39 pm ABDULKARIM AYOPO
>                         OLOYEDE, <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
>                         <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote:
>
>                             Dear Maureen,
>
>                              Your response has clearly brought out one
>                             of the three points that I was trying to
>                             make. I never asked that the individual
>                             should not be supported but I do not think
>                             it is right to prioritise one person at
>                             the expense of the community.  Who would
>                             your leadership team serve if the
>                             community is not there?.  
>                             I pointed out in the least paragraph of my
>                             email to you that the need to support the
>                             community has been mentioned several times
>                             by different people at different At-Large
>                             meetings but it was not taking to the next
>                             level until Leon stepped in only for it
>                             now to be overshadowed by a non-ICANN
>                             issue is one of my concerns. The board
>                             would make an easy decision on this matter
>                             as it is clearly dominated by a non-ICANN
>                             and private issue.  
>
>                             Leadership role and general work within
>                             at-large is voluntary and if you are
>                             concern about him "regardless of how he
>                             came about it". That should not overshadow
>                             what is affecting most people within the
>                             community.  We need to get our priorities
>                             right. I am sure you only found out about
>                             his case yesterday because according to
>                             the records I just checked he has been
>                             attending the meeting he chairs and other
>                             meetings including that of ATRT 3. I am
>                             not trying to trivialise his issue in any
>                             way but  I decided to respond because I
>                             smell a rat.   
>
>                             I do not understand what you mean by 
>                             "unusual predicament" because we are all
>                             in an "unusual predicament" of COVID 19. I
>                             also don't understand why you mean by 
>                             "extreme bad luck" but a lot of other
>                             people are affected by the "extreme bad
>                             luck" and USA has handled the COVID
>                             situation far better than a lot of other
>                             countries. I can give numerous example.
>                             some don't even have the test kit to test
>                             talk less of detection.    
>
>                             It is not about me helping or not. Like
>                             you rightly said it is voluntary. Doing
>                             what is important to us as leaders mean we
>                             should be fair, listen and look after the
>                             community, not just one person we find
>                             loyal to us. 
>
>                             AK
>
>
>
>
>                             On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 6:13 AM Maureen
>                             Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                             <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                                 Dear Abdulkarim
>
>                                 While I agree with you that there are
>                                 surely situations similar to that of
>                                 Daniel within At-Large, many do not
>                                 have the same level of responsibility
>                                 to the work of At-Large as he does. As
>                                 one of my leadership team, I am
>                                 concerned about his circumstances,
>                                 regardless of how he came upon them. 
>
>                                 It was his concern for his ability to
>                                 meet his obligations to his leadership
>                                 role which caused me to mention his
>                                 unusual predicament. I only found out
>                                 about where he was and his situation
>                                 yesterday. Even when he should be
>                                 thinking about himself, he was
>                                 informing me as to why he might not be
>                                 able to fulfil his obligations to the
>                                 O&E team for an unknown timeframe. 
>
>                                 It was extreme bad luck that he was
>                                 not able to leave the country at the
>                                 conclusion of the leadership event,
>                                 especially in a country that I believe
>                                 has very poorly managed its covid
>                                 situation. I sympathise with anyone
>                                 who ever finds themselves in a
>                                 situation such as this. If there is
>                                 any way that our community can help
>                                 relieve Daniel's situation until his
>                                 country's embassy can assist his
>                                 return to Uganda,  then Im happy to do
>                                 my bit. 
>
>                                 We cant do this for everyone, but for
>                                 someone like Daniel who has
>                                 volunteered a lot of personal time
>                                 towards work within At-Large as well
>                                 as in cross-community activities for
>                                 several years,  he deserves my support
>                                 even if in this small way, and
>                                 gratefully with the support of other
>                                 like-minded people. 
>
>                                 If you would like to help too, that is
>                                 fine. If not, then that is fine as
>                                 well. We all do what is important to
>                                 us and as much or as little as we can.
>                                 The same will have to go for our work
>                                 within ICANN.
>
>                                 Regards and keep well
>                                 Maureen
>
>
>                                 On Fri, 8 May 2020, 1:36 pm ABDULKARIM
>                                 AYOPO OLOYEDE,
>                                 <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
>                                 <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>>
>                                 wrote:
>
>                                     Dear Maureen, 
>                                     I greatly sympathise with Daniel
>                                     on this issue you shared and I
>                                     totally agree with your approach
>                                     of setting up a welfare team and
>                                     the Gofundme. However, I do not
>                                     understand why you decided to
>                                     include it in your email to Leon.
>                                     His travel is clearly not related
>                                     to the challenges being faced by
>                                     the community as a result of
>                                     having what should have been a
>                                     face to face meeting going online.
>                                     Your email was saying you removed
>                                     a message cos it is not ICANN
>                                     related but yet it included an
>                                     issue which is clearly not ICANN
>                                     related. The unrelated issue you
>                                     raised has clearly overshadowed
>                                     the other critical issue. In fact,
>                                     it took the most significant part
>                                     of the mail. What was supposed to
>                                     be the main point in the mail is
>                                     now being relegated to paragraph
>                                     3.  In as much as I sympathise
>                                     with Daniel, I do not see the
>                                     reason why a private issue was now
>                                     explicitly discussed in an email
>                                     to Leon and the community. There
>                                     are lots of people around the
>                                     world in a similar situation and I
>                                     can't understand and I don't
>                                     clearly want to guess why you
>                                     are making Daniel's case look
>                                     worse than it is or as an example
>                                     for the mailing list. I have lots
>                                     of friends and even family members
>                                     stranded as a result of the
>                                     unexpected shutdown.  We all faced
>                                     challenges in our private lives or
>                                     because of the unexpected shut
>                                     down of the world and I believe
>                                     this should remain private except
>                                     if ICANN is now a social club. 
>
>                                     I also agree with Remmy Nweke that
>                                     RALO leaders should also take
>                                     up the issues relating to
>                                     challenges the community is facing
>                                     in regards to having an online
>                                     meeting.  This is because they are
>                                     closer to the community and It
>                                     took Leon to raise it specifically
>                                     before it became a serious issue
>                                     for the ALAC when clearly we
>                                     should not have waited this long.
>                                     It has been raised by several
>                                     people before now but we didn't
>                                     seams to listen or take it seriously. 
>
>                                     AK
>
>                                     On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 6:49 PM
>                                     Maureen Hilyard
>                                     <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                     <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                     wrote:
>
>                                         Dear Leon
>
>                                         Here is the discussion that
>                                         arose out of the request from
>                                         the ALAC meeting. I am so
>                                         grateful that the community
>                                         restricted their comments to
>                                         those that were most
>                                         thoughtful and considerate of
>                                         ICANN's situation while also
>                                         taking into account some of
>                                         the hardship issues
>                                         experienced by our volunteers
>                                         at this time.  I forward all
>                                         the emails received on the
>                                         topic (I had one instance
>                                         where the email was on another
>                                         topic and once revealed, the
>                                         sender asked for it to be
>                                         removed).
>
>                                         One case which only very
>                                         recently came to my attention
>                                         was Daniel Nanghaka who was in
>                                         the US attending an AMEX
>                                         Leadership course in
>                                         Washington DC when the flights
>                                         out of US were grounded and he
>                                         could not return to Uganda. He
>                                         has been staying with friends
>                                         in Massachusetts but living
>                                         very frugally on his limited
>                                         resources. Even though he has
>                                         tried, his contacts with the
>                                         Uganda Embassy in Washington
>                                         DC have not been responded to
>                                         (as of yesterday) and neither
>                                         has AMEX been of any real
>                                         assistance to his plight. I
>                                         have suggested that he persist
>                                         and if possible return to
>                                         Washington DC to get his
>                                         government's support directly.
>                                         Fortunately he is still within
>                                         scope of his current visa, but
>                                         who knows how long will he
>                                         have to remain in a foreign
>                                         country without any resources?
>                                         Daniel hadn't raised his
>                                         situation with us because his
>                                         reason for being there was not
>                                         directly related to ICANN,
>                                         except that _he is worried
>                                         _that he may not be able to
>                                         participate in his meetings
>                                         because internet connection is
>                                         expensive and it is draining
>                                         what little resources he has
>                                         at the moment, even to take
>                                         his own O&E meetings. This is
>                                         an extreme case but a real
>                                         live situation for one of our
>                                         leadership team. 
>
>                                         The cost of internet and the
>                                         loss of jobs especially for
>                                         those in developing countries
>                                         will make ICANN's work of less
>                                         priority, especially when
>                                         they have to worry more about
>                                         how to feed and care for their
>                                         families in situations where
>                                         the pandemic is still rabid,
>                                         and it is the impoverished
>                                         areas that are being hardest
>                                         hit. While I know that ICANN
>                                         cannot save the world, it
>                                         saddens me to know what some
>                                         of our hardest-working
>                                         volunteers are experiencing in
>                                         their real worlds... and yet
>                                         at the same time there is
>                                         still a flow of even more
>                                         meetings than before, even
>                                         within At-Large, with an
>                                         expectation of more volunteer
>                                         input into issues that ICANN
>                                         has to resolve. All I can say
>                                         is that the longer this
>                                         situation exists, the greater
>                                         the chance of those voices
>                                         that we have been working
>                                         really hard to encourage to
>                                         join our discussions, will
>                                         disappear and our
>                                         multistakeholder model will be
>                                         truly lost. But what can ICANN
>                                         do and what more can we do as
>                                         volunteers who are already
>                                         stretched within our own
>                                         bubbles just to keep ourselves
>                                         safe? This is our dilemma.
>
>                                         Regards
>                                         Maureen
>
>
>                                         Forwarded Conversation
>                                         Subject: Coping with active
>                                         participation in At-Large
>                                         during COVID-19
>                                         ------------------------
>
>                                         From: *Maureen Hilyard*
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                         Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:58 AM
>                                         To: At-Large Worldwide
>                                         <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>                                         <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>
>
>                                         Dear At-Large Community
>
>                                         In all our recent ICANN
>                                         meetings, the Board and the
>                                         senior staff have been very
>                                         mindful of the
>                                         difficulties that are being
>                                         experienced by the volunteer
>                                         community of At-Large during
>                                         this pandemic and its impact
>                                         on their ability to
>                                         participate as regularly as
>                                         they used to.
>
>                                         During his intervention in the
>                                         ALAC meeting on  28 April, the
>                                         At-Large appointed Board
>                                         member, Leon Sanchez, raised
>                                         his ongoing concerns and asked
>                                         the 70+ participants at the
>                                         meeting how ICANN might be
>                                         able to help volunteers to
>                                         continue with their active
>                                         involvement in the work of
>                                         At-Large and contributing to
>                                         the bigger picture work of ICANN.
>
>                                         Because he has requested
>                                         practical and constructive
>                                         suggestions about how ICANN
>                                         may be able to assist, I am
>                                         putting this message out to
>                                         those who also already attend
>                                         online meetings and actively
>                                         participate and engage, even
>                                         under really trying personal
>                                         circumstances. I am willing to
>                                         pass on your suggestions to
>                                         Leon, who will in turn take
>                                         these to the Board for their
>                                         consideration. 
>
>                                         _Please respond only to this
>                                         thread_ before 7 May, so that
>                                         the full account can be passed
>                                         on to Leon.  I look forward to
>                                         your thoughtful contributions
>                                         to this matter. 
>
>                                         Regards 
>                                         Maureen
>                                         ALAC Chair
>
>
>                                         ----------
>                                         From: *Glenn McKnight*
>                                         <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>                                         Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at
>                                         10:22 AM
>                                         To: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                         Cc: At-Large Worldwide
>                                         <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>                                         <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>
>
>                                         Thanks  Maureen 
>                                         As  you know this is an issue
>                                         I brought up in the ALT PLUS
>                                         call a week before the ZOOM
>                                         call this week  with Leon, at
>                                         that time I interfaced with
>                                         Leon on the dire straits that
>                                         some people are facing during
>                                         this pandemic situation and
>                                         that many folks are unwilling
>                                         to step forward and publicly 
>                                         come to the table with a "cap
>                                         in their hands"  
>
>                                         We are facing a 4% drop in the
>                                         world economy and this means a
>                                         depression much worse than the
>                                         Great Depression.   Also this
>                                         Covid-19 may see a serious
>                                         second and third wave
>                                         resulting in many more deaths
>                                         and economic disruption.  (
>                                         shades of the 1918 pandemic
>                                         that killed 100 million) 
>
>                                         I would surmise that  we have
>                                         in the ATLARGE community that
>                                         many folks are unemployed or
>                                         underemployed and facing tough
>                                         times and seriously compounded
>                                         in countries that don't have
>                                         any safety net to protect them
>                                         and help them over the
>                                         difficult times.  Since
>                                         charity starts at home I
>                                         suggest ICANN  dig into its
>                                         pockets as  ISOC and Mozilla
>                                         and many others and come up
>                                         with a financial assistance to
>                                         those that could really
>                                         appreciate the support.   I
>                                         suggest that  the  stipend for
>                                         the ICANN Meetings to be paid
>                                         to the ATLARGE members which
>                                         will cover their internet
>                                         costs and food costs as they
>                                         fully participate with the
>                                         remote meetings.    In the
>                                         cases where people don't want
>                                         or need this financial support
>                                         they can simple not apply for
>                                         the stipend and the financial
>                                         costs would be reduced.  It
>                                         should be confidential and an
>                                         optional application process. 
>
>                                         In a recent survey of Atlarge
>                                         members we found a large
>                                         number of African and small
>                                         island states with very poor
>                                         internet access and very high
>                                         costs for their access to the
>                                         Internet.  This produces a
>                                         digital divide that needs to
>                                         be recognized and if not
>                                         addressed  we may loose more
>                                         members from the community. 
>                                         As recommendations to join
>                                         more online meetings and join
>                                         ICANN LEARN webinars its an
>                                         assumption that  we all have
>                                         fair and equal access  and
>                                         this inequality is enhanced
>                                         with more reliance on remote
>                                         participation 
>
>                                         Glenn McKnight
>                                         ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021
>                                         mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>                                         Curator for  Internet
>                                         Governance Hub Blog
>                                         www.internetgovernancehub.blog 
>                                         <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog>
>                                         http://toronto.ieee.ca/
>                                         IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair 
>                                         glenn.mcknight at ieee.org
>                                         <mailto:glenn.mcknight at ieee.org>
>                                         skype  gmcknight
>                                         twitter @Inkmedia
>                                         289-830 6259
>                                         .
>
>                                             ----------
>
>                                         From: *Remmy Nweke*
>                                         <remmyn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:remmyn at gmail.com>>
>                                         Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at
>                                         11:20 AM
>                                         To: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                         Cc: At-Large Worldwide
>                                         <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>                                         <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>
>
>                                         Thanks Maureen,
>                                         This is very thoughtful both
>                                         of ICANN, ALAC and Leon.
>
>                                         For me, the best possible way
>                                         to encourage participation
>                                         should have been:
>
>                                         1. To have data palliative,
>                                         but it looks cumbersome from
>                                         ICANN end down to the local
>                                         service providers.
>
>                                         2. An alternative is to have
>                                         an aggregated sum approved for
>                                         e.g. 4 months = USD600; to be
>                                         given to participants to
>                                         cushion their data effect paid
>                                         directly to them (both mobile
>                                         device and laptop). Thereby
>                                         easing off at ICANN end and
>                                         also encouraging participant
>                                         to optimise the resource to
>                                         their most essential needs
>                                         including more data, because
>                                         some may have purchased data
>                                         ahead, say two months in a row.
>
>                                         I hope this helps.
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>                                         From: <carlosraul at gutierrez.se
>                                         <mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>>
>                                         Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at
>                                         11:44 AM
>                                         To: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                         Cc: At-Large Worldwide
>                                         <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>                                         <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>
>
>                                         Thank you Maureen and Léon !
>
>                                         1. We in LACRALO have already
>                                         adapted our meeting hours to
>                                         avoid conflicts with working
>                                         hours as far as possible.
>                                         Thanks to our Brazilian and
>                                         Uruguayan friends that's stay
>                                         up late, the westerners in
>                                         Mexico in Costa Rica have
>                                         meeting only after 4pm or so. 
>                                         REQUEST;
>                                         1. Can't we do choose two
>                                         convenient blocks of time over
>                                         the day so that's global
>                                         meetings only happen outside
>                                         of sleeping hours?
>                                         2. Can we start using those
>                                         blocks of time ASAP
>                                         3. Can we keep those Blocks
>                                         for the Kuala Lumpur virtual
>                                         meeting instead of the local
>                                         time there?
>                                         4. If all of the above is not
>                                         possible: can we spread the
>                                         Kuala Lumpur meeting into 2-3
>                                         power weekend meetings online?
>
>                                         Seriously, if we are going to
>                                         spend the next few months on
>                                         virtual meetings, it makes no
>                                         sense to use the planning
>                                         frameworks and time blocks of
>                                         Face to Face meetings. 
>
>
>                                         Thanks! Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>
>
>                                         ----------
>                                         From: *Vanda Scartezini*
>                                         <vanda at scartezini.org
>                                         <mailto:vanda at scartezini.org>>
>                                         Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at
>                                         12:06 PM
>                                         To: Glenn McKnight
>                                         <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>,
>                                         Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>
>
>                                         Dear  Glenn  and Maureen
>
>                                          
>
>                                         These thoughts are really
>                                         relevant when we can see in
>                                         developing region several
>                                         medium class persons are
>                                         struggled to feed their
>                                         families without work.
>
>                                         Here, as developing country,
>                                          the government is performing
>                                         a quite complex operation,
>                                          providing a 120 – 240 (
>                                         widows with children)
>                                          correspondent USD to 56
>                                         millions  ( ¼ of our
>                                         population) of persons and had
>                                         open up a 26 million of a
>                                         special bank account to those
>                                         not having one  in the public
>                                         bank, and will pay such amount
>                                         during 3 months or even longer
>                                         depend upon the winter ( even
>                                         mild one here) season. The
>                                         amount  represents what  we
>                                         call basic basket with food
>                                         and cleaner and hygienic items
>                                         for one month of a family of
>                                         4. The basic mobile are
>                                         reduced  and energy are
>                                         sponsored  for  those families.
>
>                                         Helping people to attend our
>                                         meetings on line in places
>                                         where they need to spend too
>                                         much special nowadays  paying
>                                         internet or even 3G for a
>                                         volunteer activity,  does not
>                                         see  will break ICANN’s
>                                         finances and certainly will
>                                         help a lot to keep these
>                                         relevant community with us.
>
>                                         Thanks for these relevant
>                                         proposal that I do believe
>                                         really help the engagement of
>                                         our community.
>
>                                         We can also help to state who,
>                                          in our regions, is really in
>                                         need of help. Some even to
>                                         feed their families.
>
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>
>                                          
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>                                         ----------
>                                         From: *Glenn McKnight*
>                                         <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>                                         Date: Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:28 AM
>                                         To: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                         Cc: At-Large Worldwide
>                                         <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>                                         <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>
>
>                                         Greetings  
>
>                                         Here is the draft response
>                                         from*NARALO* . Note we are
>                                         still  working out the
>                                         logistics of the ideas  and
>                                         its not final .  I am sharing
>                                         it for inspiration purpose. 
>                                         The  bold and italic comments
>                                         are excerpts from ICANN's
>                                         comments direct from the ICANN
>                                         page
>
>                                         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-_IO9vxnl2AUyrPE2zcL19UjyDPbl5DQHTLvWxX1q6Q/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
>                                           Supporting the Work of Our
>                                           Global Community over the
>                                           Next Few Months: Leveraging
>                                           Remote Participation
>
>
>                                         Link to document 
>
>                                         https://www.icann.org/news/blog/supporting-the-work-of-our-global-community-over-the-next-few-months-leveraging-remote-participation
>
>
>
>                                         Facts 
>
>                                          *
>
>                                             All ICANN Face to Face
>                                             meetings on hold to Sept 2020
>
>
>                                         Reality
>
>                                          *
>
>                                             The Pandemic will likely
>                                             be worse in the fall
>                                             according to the CDC
>                                             comments and likely it
>                                             will be into 2021.(1)  and
>                                             resulting in no  Face to
>                                             Face meetings during that
>                                             year 
>
>
>                                         Item One:  Remote Participation
>
>                                         ICANN has always embraced
>                                         remote participation. It is
>                                         what makes our work accessible
>                                         to a global community and
>                                         enables us to get the work
>                                         done between meetings.
>                                         COVID-19 has made remote
>                                         engagement even more crucial,
>                                         and a very real and practical
>                                         alternative
>
>
>                                         Comment 
>
>                                         This is a practical solution
>                                         to keep the community engaged
>                                         but the devil is in the
>                                         details.  We have a serious
>                                         digital divide which impacts
>                                         the ATLARGE community.  Since
>                                         ICANN has  Multistakeholderism
>                                         baked into its DNA it is
>                                         critical to provide
>                                         communities with the tools to
>                                         properly engage.   In Canada,
>                                         especially in the far- north,
>                                         in the US  tribal lands, as
>                                         well as in rural areas(2),
>                                         among students(3)  and in poor
>                                         urban communities(4)there is a
>                                         serious digital divide that
>                                         makes it next to impossible to
>                                         participate fully in the
>                                         meetings. In fact, if there
>                                         are few participants in such
>                                         areas, it is not because they
>                                         don’t want to participate.
>                                         They simply cannot participate
>                                         unless their internet
>                                         accessibility issues are
>                                         addressed. Although ICANN
>                                         cannot be responsible for all
>                                         digital divide issues, it must
>                                         recognize that these exist and
>                                         perhaps look for alternative
>                                         ways to deal with these --
>                                         create support groups, reach
>                                         out locally with low tech
>                                         methods, build partnerships
>                                         with national, regional, and
>                                         local organizations, etc.. 
>
>
>
>                                         Item Two;  Leverage
>                                         Participation Tools
>
>                                         It is more important than ever
>                                         that we leverage our remote
>                                         participation tools to
>                                         continue effectively engaging
>                                         and supporting our community
>                                         in the work that needs to be
>                                         done; at the very least, over
>                                         the next four months.
>
>
>                                         Comments 
>
>                                         It is not just a matter of
>                                         online tools ie. Zoom,  Adobe,
>                                         Bluejean etc or accessibility
>                                         issues, but about the
>                                         bandwidth required by any or
>                                         all of them. Moreover, many
>                                         within At Large have uneven
>                                         connectivity speeds and others
>                                         are burdened with very high
>                                         Internet costs and extremely
>                                         slow speeds. This combined
>                                         with the loss of income by
>                                         many of the participants due
>                                         to COVID-19  making it harder
>                                         for them to pay for the extra
>                                         data needed to participate in
>                                         the At Large or other ICANN
>                                         related calls. 
>
>
>                                          Item  Three   Online Courses/
>                                         Webinars
>
>                                         We are working with the
>                                         community to ensure that
>                                         high-priority topics for this
>                                         period are being addressed and
>                                         are creating new opportunities
>                                         and training for our
>                                         stakeholders within At Large
>                                         to participate. As such, we
>                                         are looking at facilitating
>                                         these efforts and adding a
>                                         variety of additional
>                                         activities to build capacity,
>                                         to attract new participants,
>                                         and to educate, and engage
>                                         these new participants. These
>                                         activities will include
>                                         informative webinars, ICANN
>                                         Learn modules, lectures, and
>                                         ICANN Public Meeting readouts.
>
>
>                                         However, this strategy of
>                                         engagement is only possible
>                                         where high-speed Internet
>                                         access is available and the
>                                         end-user has the funds to pay
>                                         for the extra service.  We
>                                         would be interested in
>                                         learning about any surveys
>                                         that ICANN LEARN staff have
>                                         done on connectivity
>                                         challenges of end-users.  A
>                                         recent informal ATLARGE
>                                         survey, although having only
>                                         twenty responses, shows that
>                                         participants in developing
>                                         countries have limited
>                                         bandwidth especially in many
>                                         parts of Africa and small
>                                         island states combined with
>                                         high Internet costs.  
>
>
>                                         General View 
>
>                                         In the short run, the
>                                         participation in the first
>                                         virtual meeting (Cancun) while
>                                         having very high
>                                         participation, should be
>                                         looked at as a novelty, this
>                                         will not be the new norm. We
>                                         do expect that participation
>                                         in future meetings will drop
>                                         until the economy gets back on
>                                         track. Participants do not
>                                         have the available income to
>                                         spend on the access needed to
>                                         actively participate in online
>                                         meetings. We are at a serious
>                                         risk of losing valuable
>                                         volunteers. At Large
>                                         participants are volunteers
>                                         and unlike other
>                                         constituencies, they do this
>                                         outside their paid jobs and
>                                         often take a vacation to
>                                         attend ICANN Meetings.
>
>
>                                          Our community unlike the
>                                         other the government or
>                                         business community do not have
>                                         the luxury of sponsorship to
>                                         carry on their volunteerism. 
>                                         Our community has had to dig
>                                         into their own pockets to pay
>                                         to participate. If the economy
>                                         does not pick up we can see a
>                                         substantial loss of
>                                         participants from locations we
>                                         cannot afford to lose.  We
>                                         propose that ICANN recognize
>                                         the value of these
>                                         participants and create a
>                                         special connectivity fund. The
>                                         process and procedure could be
>                                         worked out in a simple
>                                         application and approval process. 
>
>                                         Recommendations 
>
>                                          *
>
>                                             Provide the stipend to all
>                                             elected ATLARGE community
>                                             members 
>
>                                          *
>
>                                             Provide an opportunity to
>                                             ALS members to receive an
>                                             Internet Connectivity
>                                             voucher to offset their
>                                             high Internet costs so
>                                             they can participate.
>
>                                          *
>
>                                             ICANN LEARN should conduct
>                                             a true connectivity survey
>                                             of all users. 
>
>                                          *
>
>                                             Improve upon the end-user
>                                             survey at the end of all
>                                             ICANN Public webinars to
>                                             get feedback on
>                                             participation and
>                                             connectivity experiences
>                                             ie. latency, quality etc 
>
>
>
>                                         Conclusion 
>
>                                         Under development
>
>                                         Footnotes
>
>                                         1.
>
>                                             https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html 
>
>                                         2.
>
>                                             60% of farmers in the US
>                                             report very poor Broadband
>                                             speeds
>                                             https://api.unitedsoybean.org/uploads/documents/58546-1-ruralbroadband-whitepages-final.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletters&utm_source=sendgrid
>
>                                         3.
>
>                                             Students and digital
>                                             divide
>                                             https://internetgovernancehub.blog/2020/04/10/when-school-is-online-the-digital-divide-grows-greater/
>
>                                         4.
>
>                                             Poor and Digital
>                                             Dividehttps://internetgovernancehub.blog/2020/04/29/digital-divide-isolates-and-endangers-millions-of-uks-poorest/
>
>                                         5.
>
>                                             Broadband  Infographic 
>
>
>
>                                         Glenn McKnight
>                                         ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021
>                                         mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>                                         Curator for  Internet
>                                         Governance Hub Blog
>                                         www.internetgovernancehub.blog 
>                                         <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog>
>                                         http://toronto.ieee.ca/
>                                         IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair 
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>                                         <mailto:glenn.mcknight at ieee.org>
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>                                         .
>
>
>                                         On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 3:59
>                                         PM Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                         wrote:
>
>
>                                         ----------
>                                         From: *Judith Hellerstein*
>                                         <judith at jhellerstein.com
>                                         <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>>
>                                         Date: Sat, May 2, 2020 at 3:10 PM
>                                         To: Glenn McKnight
>                                         <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>                                         Cc: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>
>
>                                         Hi Glenn,
>                                         I have more to add but did not
>                                         get a chance on Friday to put
>                                         in but will do so tomorrow
>
>                                         Best,
>                                         Judith
>
>                                         Sent from my iPad 
>                                         judith at jhellerstein.com
>                                         <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>                                         Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>
>>                                         On May 2, 2020, at 10:29 AM,
>>                                         Glenn McKnight
>>                                         <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>>                                         wrote:
>>
>>                                         
>                                         ----------
>                                         From: *Olivier Kouami*
>                                         <olivierkouami at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com>>
>                                         Date: Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:49 PM
>                                         To: Glenn McKnight
>                                         <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>                                         Cc: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>,
>                                         At Large
>                                         <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>                                         <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>
>
>                                         Hi all.
>                                         Greetings everyone from Sénégal.
>                                         +1 @Glen who raised issues
>                                         that i'm personaly facing in
>                                         this sad pandemic moment.
>                                         I Also approve the concrete
>                                         proposals of Remmy.
>                                         Most ALSes are certainly on
>                                         these needs too.
>                                         Much appreciate if ICANN could
>                                         make as proposed.
>                                         Warm regards
>                                         Olévié
>
>
>                                         ----------
>                                         From: *Barrack Otieno*
>                                         <otieno.barrack at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com>>
>                                         Date: Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:02 PM
>                                         To: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>                                         Cc: At-Large Worldwide
>                                         <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>                                         <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>
>
>                                         Hi Maureen,
>
>                                         My humble and personal take to
>                                         this is that similar to the
>                                         fellowship program, we could
>                                         consider support to community
>                                         members who dedicate
>                                         significant time and resources
>                                         to ICANN's mission by
>                                         contributing to the work of
>                                         various supporting
>                                         organizations and Advisory
>                                         Commitees and the overall
>                                         mission of ICANN. It is true
>                                         engaging in SO/AC work costs
>                                         valuable time for those whose
>                                         day job may not necessarily be
>                                         around the DNS ecosystem. 
>                                         Significant resources are
>                                         incurred to get online and to
>                                         have the right tools that can
>                                         enable meaningful
>                                         participation and contribution
>                                         to ICANN's work. I welcome the
>                                         idea of reimbursing some of
>                                         the costs incurred on
>                                         connectivity or any other
>                                         aspect as may be determined
>                                         through a suitable process
>                                         considering the continuous
>                                         nature of the work we are doing.
>
>                                         Best Regards
>
>
>
>                                         -- 
>                                         Barrack O. Otieno
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>                                         +254733206359
>                                         Skype: barrack.otieno
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>                                          
>
>
>                                         ----------
>                                         From: *LUKE KAPCHANGA*
>                                         <wanjalaluke1 at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:wanjalaluke1 at gmail.com>>
>                                         Date: Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:41 AM
>                                         To: Maureen Hilyard
>                                         <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                                         <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
>
>
>                                         Thanks Maureen ,
>                                         Glenn has captured what some
>                                         of go through, if not worse. I
>                                         am based in rural areas of
>                                         Kenya. To attend online
>                                         meetings   I depend at times
>                                         on cyber cafes, which are not
>                                         very reliable, yet the best
>                                         option. The COVID 19, has
>                                         worsened the situation. The
>                                         proposal to assist us from
>                                         developing countries is welcome.
>
>
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