[At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

[Alan Greenberg]

ICANN is *NOT* a regulator, a function that 
requires government granting of powers. But it 
does, via contracts, perform regulatory-type functions and controls.

Alan

At 13/07/2018 05:34 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>Every ICANN president has vigorously asserted 
>that ICANN is not a regulator. This is not 
>merely a casual opinion, it is a demand imposed 
>upon them by ICANN's lawyers. To admit that 
>ICANN is a regulator - - or even provides some 
>regulatory function - - is to invite even deeper 
>state scrutiny and attempts to make ICANN into a 
>multilateral, treaty-based body than now exists.
>
>In a submission to ICANN's Accountability and 
>Transparency review team more than a decade ago, 
>a number of At-Large members submitted an 
>analysis that called on ICANN to recognize the 
>obvious and embrace its inner regulator:
>
><https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-atrt2-02apr13/pdfNKvEtbrZ3u.pdf>https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-atrt2-02apr13/pdfNKvEtbrZ3u.pdf
>
>Not much has changed. While a few references are 
>dated, the paper's observations and commentaries are as valid now as then.
>
>___________________
>Evan Leibovitch, Toronto
>@evanleibovitch/@el56
>
>On Jul 13, 2018 5:13 PM, "Kan Kaili" 
><<mailto:kankaili at gmail.com>kankaili at gmail.com> wrote:
>Indeed Goran has said "ICANN is not a regulator" 
>many times.  I have heard him saying that 
>myself.  However, this is something I disagree with him.
>
>Again, in my personal opinion, as long as the 
>positioning of ICANN stays blurry as it is now, 
>the confusion will only accumulate until it creats a crisis.
>
>
>Kaili
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Johan Helsingius" <<mailto:julf at julf.com>julf at julf.com>
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>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 8:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista
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>
> > On 12-07-18 19:56, Kan Kaili wrote:
> >> In my opinion, ICANN should play the role of a regulator.
> >
> > Our esteemed CEO, Göran Marby, has a number of phrases he repeats
> > fairly often. "ICANN is not a regulator" is one of them.
> >
> > Julf
> >
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