[At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

[Carlton Samuels]

Michele:
Thanks for telling me what I know.  Notice what I said.  Maybe I was too
cryptic to follow I know the distinction - and by virtue, the implications
for dropping out! - between a tld owner and a domain name investor.

Sure, as a brand tld, the registrar's (your?) interest is zero zip; not a
dime to you and the immediate interest of the "normal" registrant. Yessir,
I agree.

The disconnect seems to be what that could mean for the overall market in
general and ICANN, in particular. One less tld in the root may not actually
mean less expansion. Because to paraphrase one Englishman, one swallow does
not make a summer. Get two, three, four others seeing the "light", now that
might be something, isn't it?

Consider the direct ICANN impact. Last time they took in what, $185K apiece
from each brand owner for the right to get in on the ground floor. I
believe these flow as income somewhere to the ICANN pot and actually
expresses continued viability and vitality for the GDD, seeing they do get
a few cents for each domain name declared and "sold".

Forget the $185K down the drain some brand retire and turn in their
license. I posit when some brand owner decides a tld investment is neither
a strategic investment nor shiny toy today, it sends a chilling effect on
what might be the next round now bandied about. Those who will hear the
next bright strategist say I think we ought to get a tld for brand
protection and service impact or whatever, some grizzled ole fool will be
sufficiently empowered to tell him sit down before you hurt yourself.

As for the retail side, keep a keen eye on the renewals, especially for all
those 'parked' domains held by Eastern investors. If you see a dip in their
renewals, then we might be witnessing a wave, not just an indicator.

Then we would have a real worry.

-Carlton
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 3:27 AM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
michele at blacknight.com> wrote:

> Carlton
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> It’s a .brand – zero “normal” registrants or users will be impacted
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> If it was a TLD with actual registrations then it would be a totally
> different matter, but it isn’t.
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> Regards
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> Michele
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> *From: *At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
> Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday 10 July 2018 at 21:10
> *To: *At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "
> lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <
> lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Subject: *[At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista
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> Maybe we should track these 'returns/abandonments' and in context,
> [re]read the recommendations of the Subsequent Procedures WG?
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> Saw a story of a domain investor account of his return on investment so
> far; he's in the red with diminishing prospects.
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> On top of these kind of stories that speak to the conditions in the end
> user market and the 'retired and/or abandoned gLTDs, it just seems
> 'otherworldly' to me that in all the happy talk of new rounds, this idea
> that demand has something to do with markets is largely left unmentioned.
> Helluva thing!
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> https://domainnamewire.com/2018/07/10/vistaprint-drops-vista-top-level-domain/
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> -Carlton
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