[At-Large] R: R: Unsubscribe me please

Mon Feb 20 09:36:20 UTC 2017

@ Holly,

+1.

Otunte

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[mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Holly Raiche
Sent: 19 February 2017 20:34
To: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org; ICANN At-Large Staff
Subject: Re: [At-Large] R: R: Unsubscribe me please

Folks

A great discussion on this list - making some really important points.  So
instead of letting the matter drop (as is so often the case), make this an
item for discussion at CPH - and allow plenty of time.  How do we
communicate, can we do better and how.  

So maybe review what some of us know - what are the lists, how are they used
(or not), when people unsubscribe, do we try to find out why, is there a
better way to communicate - by topic?  And Dev, Garth, Seun and everyone -
could there be a page or so - to that list and staff, saying this is a
better way and this is how to do it.

We are starting the Review comments - and how we communicate (and how we
could do it better) is clearly something that should be one of the  top
items on that agenda.  So let's actually make our communications structures
better rather than just complain

Thanks everyone 

Holly

On 20 Feb 2017, at 4:57 am, Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
wrote:

Oh good, then we can agree.

R

Da:  <mailto:gbruen at knujon.com> gbruen at knujon.com [
<mailto:gbruen at knujon.com> mailto:gbruen at knujon.com] 
Inviato: domenica 19 febbraio 2017 18:55
A: Roberto Gaetano
Cc:  <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Oggetto: Re: R: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please

<< OTOH, your point is to replace email with something different, I am
strongly against.>>

Hardly Roberto, I want people to have CHOICE and the system to be flexible.
Have a web interface that allows people to subscribe to the issue they are
concerned about and when they respond via email to a thread it is placed
somewhere useful within the interface so people who do NOT use the email
list can still interact with you. The overlay of a properly configured
interface would also allow people to use the system in a LOCAL language if
they choose. 

On 2/19/17 12:46 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

Garth,

I am not arguing on the fact that there are other solutions, what I reacted
was to the idea of dropping the email.

What is *better* or *much better* is really a matter of different taste,
connectivity conditions (bandwidth, cost, etc.), way to use (always online
or not), and more.

What is good for some, is bad for other.

If your point is that ICANN should explore alternatives and add them to the
offer they give to the stakeholders, I am with you.

If, OTOH, your point is to replace email with something different, I am
strongly against.

Cheers,

Roberto

Da:  <mailto:gbruen at knujon.com> gbruen at knujon.com [
<mailto:gbruen at knujon.com> mailto:gbruen at knujon.com] 
Inviato: domenica 19 febbraio 2017 18:24
A: Roberto Gaetano
Cc:  <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please

Roberto, 

There is a much better way. Web technology has evolved considerably, It is
entirely possible to have a single interface where all At-Large participants
can review current issues and collaborate in queues and streams. Instead of
cobbling together a bunch of disparate systems for placing and tracking
At-Large work, can we put all the tools in one place like every other
effective organization has done. We're not using anything even close to
workflow, none of the At-Large "Stuff" is results or goal driven. Log into
this for that, log into this other thing for something else. This is a case
study in driving our work into the ground.

-Garth

On 2/19/17 11:35 AM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

To me, it works well - or at least better than some alternatives.

But maybe there other ways that I don't know.

Anyway, please do not unsubscribe me :)

R

Sent from my iPad

On 19 Feb 2017, at 17:13, " <mailto:gbruen at knujon.com> gbruen at knujon.com" <
<mailto:gbruen at knujon.com> gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:

Seun, there are always too many emails, none channeled to specific interests
or needs. This decades-old "system" of collaboration and information flow is
one of the great failures of ICANN to engage with the community. Why would
anyone want to stay engaged? 

On 2/19/17 10:46 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:

Hello,

The URL to unsubscribe is in the footer:

 <https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large>
https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large

On that note, I wonder why a few people are unsubscribing? Are the mails too
much already ;-)

Regards

Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

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aforsyth.pdp at gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you.

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