[At-Large] Jack Ma New Co-Chair of Global Internet Governance Alliance #AliBaba #GIGA

Evan Leibovitch evan at telly.org
Tue Jul 7 06:38:05 UTC 2015


Alejandro, you are correct in your points. There are plenty of concerns to
go around. The larger one, that is the source of the others IMO, remains
that NMI remains a largely redundant solution in search of a problem to
solve.

This most recent action is simply the latest chapter in the story of NMI's
ongoing and desperate search for credibility. This search may indeed
address my first point above, if the Chinese involvement in NMI introduces
new "problems" to solve... (that the rest of the community may see as not
being problems at all...)
 On Jul 7, 2015 08:18, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx>
wrote:

>
> Evan,
>
>  you should probably be more concerned by this, if you go after more
> substance and reasons to worry:
>
>  1. China's own "order based" Internet governance, which Minister Lu
> presented in the NetMundial meeting and Chinese agencies say was praised:
>
>  http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0702/c98649-8914757.html
> http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0702/c98649-8914757.html
>
>  2. The composition of the Council with two people not only from the same
> country but working for its government (one directly and one in an
> organization that provides consultancy and a career path for the
> government.)
>
>  Maybe Jean-Jacques has some explanations here, as this happened in his
> presence.
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
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> *Enviado el:* lunes, 06 de julio de 2015 09:51
> *Hasta:* Douglas Onyango
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> *Asunto:* Re: [At-Large] Jack Ma New Co-Chair of Global Internet
> Governance Alliance #AliBaba #GIGA
>
>   On 6 July 2015 at 16:41, Douglas Onyango <ondouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the explanation.
>> I think a lot of people will be pleased to learn that we don't have
>> another entity cropping up in this space.
>>
>> Your response w.r.t to Chinese reporting also clarifies why Jack Ma's
>> appointment seems to overshadow the rest of the co-chairs.
>>
>> I guess this frees us up to deliberate more on the arbitrary and
>> unprecedented co-chair selection criteria.
>>
>
>
>  ​I suppose so, and I too appreciate the explanation ... though the
> episode, as described,  indicates a remarkable lack of media relations
> competence. Such a major issues as "what is the group named", one would
> think, should not be the subject of such needless confusion.
>
>  But now that THAT's out of the way .... we can get back to the original
> issue of trying to figure out exactly what problem ​this organization --
> whatever it is called -- is supposed to non-redundantly solve. ;-) Adding
> Chinese representation to the mix doesn't magically provide an answer to
> that question.
>
>  ​- Evan
>>
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