[At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org

[Jefsey]

Jean-Jacques,

I am afraid this list of points denotes an interventionist attitude 
which is out of context with our multitude's polycratic rights. It is 
interesting to note that it surprisingly comes as an opposition - 
between two former ICANN Board Members - from a French ambassador to 
a glasnost service by an American industry member.

However, it calls for an extended understanding of the internet 
cyberagora system I plead for that should be discussed either on the 
IETF or on the Libre's technical WG lists. Addressing the request 
refers to the uses of classes of senders and groups of receivers (or 
closed user groups, or more generally VGNs [virtual glocal networks]) 
within a distribution list. Something I advocate for a long as an 
SMTP/DNS/CATENET/etc/ generalization of what is already 
non-interoperationnally disseminated in the technology. In this case 
it could probably be patched in using the keyword field?

jfc

At 23:16 02/01/2015, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote:
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64Dear Colleagues,
>
>my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting 
>summary" established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the 
>At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark). My request is 
>based on the following considerations:
>
>1) This "summary" was considered by some in the ALAC as a metric of 
>effective presence and work of its members (Carlton's remark). I 
>have long questioned the validity of this approach, and still do. 
>This measurement not have its equivalent, say on the ICANN Board, 
>where the "360° Review" of Directors is carried out with other tools.
>
>2) This form of statistical data has no qualitative value, as it may 
>record a peak of correspondence from one ALAC or At-Large member 
>giving family news and being congratulated by everyone else, or any 
>other topic, for that matter.
>
>3) Nominative tracking also raises the question of how such 
>information may or may not be used for purposes it was or was not 
>designed for, e.g. surveillance.
>
>4) A minor point, but non-US citizens may have noticed that the 
>"summary" is provided by, and emanates from, an address in a US 
>corporation. In itself this is not a cause for concern, but some 
>questions need to be answered: was there a decision to ask/grant any 
>particular individual/firm to carry out this statistical/nominative 
>tracking (date, reference), was this submitted to regular review and 
>approval, is there a separate decision to grant this as a permanent 
>authorization?
>
>5) It is not desirable, nor fair, that members of the At-Large 
>and/or ALAC lists cannot ask to be unsubscribed from one item (in 
>this case the "Weekly posting summary") without being deleted from 
>these lists for other items and debates.
>
>6) It goes without saying, but I wish to make clear here, that my 
>lack of enthusiasm for this "Weekly posting summary" is in no way a 
>judgment on the value of its author, whom I worked with as a member 
>of the ICANN Board, and whose experience and opinion I value.
>
>Jean-Jacques.
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>----- Mail original -----
>De: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
>À: "Thomas Narten" <narten at us.ibm.com>
>Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs at dyalog.net>, "At-Large Worldwide" 
><at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 22:13:40
>Objet: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for 
>at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>
>
>
>Dear Colleagues:
>
>
>I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why.
>
>
>The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, 
>for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report.
>
>
>Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should 
>think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; 
>shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly 
>be curative.
>
>
>I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then 
>and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary.
>
>
>-Carlton
>
>
>-Carlton
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>
>
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>On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten < narten at us.ibm.com > wrote:
>
>
> > this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly
> > posting summary", which I find not useful.
>
>Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to
>the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.
>
>If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no
>longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.
>
>Thomas
>
>
>
> > Jean-Jacques.
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