[At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org

Louis Houle louis.houle at oricom.ca
Mon Jan 5 00:06:01 UTC 2015


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Louis Houle
President
ISOC Quebec

Le 2015-01-02 17:16, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques a écrit :
> Dear Colleagues,
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> my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary" established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists (this is in answer to Seun's remark). My request is based on the following considerations:
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> 1) This "summary" was considered by some in the ALAC as a metric of effective presence and work of its members (Carlton's remark). I have long questioned the validity of this approach, and still do. This measurement not have its equivalent, say on the ICANN Board, where the "360° Review" of Directors is carried out with other tools.
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> 2) This form of statistical data has no qualitative value, as it may record a peak of correspondence from one ALAC or At-Large member giving family news and being congratulated by everyone else, or any other topic, for that matter.
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> 3) Nominative tracking also raises the question of how such information may or may not be used for purposes it was or was not designed for, e.g. surveillance.
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> 4) A minor point, but non-US citizens may have noticed that the "summary" is provided by, and emanates from, an address in a US corporation. In itself this is not a cause for concern, but some questions need to be answered: was there a decision to ask/grant any particular individual/firm to carry out this statistical/nominative tracking (date, reference), was this submitted to regular review and approval, is there a separate decision to grant this as a permanent authorization?
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> 5) It is not desirable, nor fair, that members of the At-Large and/or ALAC lists cannot ask to be unsubscribed from one item (in this case the "Weekly posting summary") without being deleted from these lists for other items and debates.
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> 6) It goes without saying, but I wish to make clear here, that my lack of enthusiasm for this "Weekly posting summary" is in no way a judgment on the value of its author, whom I worked with as a member of the ICANN Board, and whose experience and opinion I value.
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> Jean-Jacques.
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> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> À: "Thomas Narten" <narten at us.ibm.com>
> Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs at dyalog.net>, "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 22:13:40
> Objet: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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> Dear Colleagues:
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> I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you why.
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> The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report.
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> Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative.
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> I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary.
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> -Carlton
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> -Carlton
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> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten < narten at us.ibm.com > wrote:
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>> this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly
>> posting summary", which I find not useful.
> Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to
> the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.
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> If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no
> longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.
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> Thomas
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>> Jean-Jacques.
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>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Thomas Narten" < narten at us.ibm.com >
>> À: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04
>> Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>> Total of 5 messages in the last 7 days.
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>> script run at: Fri Jan 2 00:53:04 EST 2015
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>> Messages | Bytes | Who
>> --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
>> 20.00% | 1 | 25.50% | 11120 | sylvia at internautabrasil.org
>> 20.00% | 1 | 19.61% | 8550 | admin at ttcsweb.org
>> 20.00% | 1 | 18.97% | 8273 | narten at us.ibm.com
>> 20.00% | 1 | 17.98% | 7839 | louis.houle at oricom.ca
>> 20.00% | 1 | 17.93% | 7819 | b.schombe at gmail.com
>> --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
>> 100.00% | 5 |100.00% | 43601 | Total
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