[At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org

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On 2 Jan 2015 23:34, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs at dyalog.net> wrote:
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> Dear Colleagues,
>
> my request is to be unsubscribed ONLY from the "Weekly posting summary"
established by T. Narten, not from other elements on the At-Large lists
(this is in answer to Seun's remark).
>
Hi JJ, it is indeed the weekly summary I was referring to; an individual
can't be unsubscribed from such as it is sent as a normal mail. See it as a
mailing list member sending many which you don't want, usually you will
filter from you end (not at the mailing list server). As it's been said,
it's either we all agree to stop it or review the summary reporting
frequency (perhaps to monthly?), I personally like to see the reporting
maintained but with monthly intervals.

Although I agree that it does not really analyse the content except for
counting mail headers, other detailed reports like 360 review et all will
require lots of resources (human resources/funds) to get done which I don't
think we really require.

Having a summed up idea of a list traffic can be useful data to improve on
communication methods/approaches on the list and I think that is one reason
why the reporting in useful.

Regards
My request is based on the following considerations:
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> 1) This "summary" was considered by some in the ALAC as a metric of
effective presence and work of its members (Carlton's remark). I have long
questioned the validity of this approach, and still do. This measurement
not have its equivalent, say on the ICANN Board, where the "360° Review" of
Directors is carried out with other tools.
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> 2) This form of statistical data has no qualitative value, as it may
record a peak of correspondence from one ALAC or At-Large member giving
family news and being congratulated by everyone else, or any other topic,
for that matter.
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> 3) Nominative tracking also raises the question of how such information
may or may not be used for purposes it was or was not designed for, e.g.
surveillance.
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> 4) A minor point, but non-US citizens may have noticed that the "summary"
is provided by, and emanates from, an address in a US corporation. In
itself this is not a cause for concern, but some questions need to be
answered: was there a decision to ask/grant any particular individual/firm
to carry out this statistical/nominative tracking (date, reference), was
this submitted to regular review and approval, is there a separate decision
to grant this as a permanent authorization?
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> 5) It is not desirable, nor fair, that members of the At-Large and/or
ALAC lists cannot ask to be unsubscribed from one item (in this case the
"Weekly posting summary") without being deleted from these lists for other
items and debates.
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> 6) It goes without saying, but I wish to make clear here, that my lack of
enthusiasm for this "Weekly posting summary" is in no way a judgment on the
value of its author, whom I worked with as a member of the ICANN Board, and
whose experience and opinion I value.
>
> Jean-Jacques.
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> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> À: "Thomas Narten" <narten at us.ibm.com>
> Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs at dyalog.net>, "At-Large Worldwide" <
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 22:13:40
> Objet: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>
>
>
> Dear Colleagues:
>
>
> I beg to disagree these postings are not desirable and I will tell you
why.
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>
> The ALAC has developed performance/engagement/utility metrics that, for
better or worse, include elements that are displayed by this report.
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>
> Consider then this report an artful early warning device. I should think
such a one is both good and necessary for ALAC members; shooting the
messenger, or, 'disappearing' the message would hardly be curative.
>
>
> I'm of a mind that only when the ALAC metrics are disavowed, then and
only then one could reasonably insist this notification is unnecessary.
>
>
> -Carlton
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>
> -Carlton
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> ==============================
> Carlton A Samuels
> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround
> =============================
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> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Thomas Narten < narten at us.ibm.com > wrote:
>
>
> > this is to request that I be unsubscribed from this "At-Large weekly
> > posting summary", which I find not useful.
>
> Sorry, individual folk can't opt out of this message, as it's sent to
> the list. Everyone on the list gets it, as they do all postings.
>
> If it's the collective sense of this list that these postings are no
> longer needed or desired, I will stop generating them.
>
> Thomas
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> > Jean-Jacques.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > De: "Thomas Narten" < narten at us.ibm.com >
> > À: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Envoyé: Vendredi 2 Janvier 2015 06:53:04
> > Objet: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >
> > Total of 5 messages in the last 7 days.
> >
> > script run at: Fri Jan 2 00:53:04 EST 2015
> >
> > Messages | Bytes | Who
> > --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
> > 20.00% | 1 | 25.50% | 11120 | sylvia at internautabrasil.org
> > 20.00% | 1 | 19.61% | 8550 | admin at ttcsweb.org
> > 20.00% | 1 | 18.97% | 8273 | narten at us.ibm.com
> > 20.00% | 1 | 17.98% | 7839 | louis.houle at oricom.ca
> > 20.00% | 1 | 17.93% | 7819 | b.schombe at gmail.com
> > --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
> > 100.00% | 5 |100.00% | 43601 | Total
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